Buying a used 2012 FREIGHTLINER CASCADIA?

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  1. karma123

    karma123 Light Load Member

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    I'm contemplating on buying a 2012 freightliner cascadia, which has 311,569 miles. It's from arrow truck sales. Engine is DD15, 13 speed. Now are cascadias good trucks? Will this truck give me lot of problems, or it's a prudent buy? How expensive are they to fix? What should I look at the dealership?
    help me please

    thank you guys
     
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  3. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Well, I see you're from California - so i'm guessing you have to have an EGR, CA compliant truck.

    If not - then GOOD NEWS!!! Run like heck away from this truck!!! It'll cost you a fortune! Once she's out of warranty, it'll be in the shop every other week, and you'll spend THOUSANDS in repairing issues that never go away - or worse, they CAN'T Fix it - and STILL charge you!!

    However, if so - then, ummmmmmmmmmm, good luck - I'm sure they aren't all that bad.
     
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  4. karma123

    karma123 Light Load Member

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    Yes I'm in California. What truck do you recommend?
     
  5. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Seriously now.
    Ask for, or take it to - dealer, for a FULL ECM report. Several pages long. Come and discuss the results on here.

    You'll be looking at lots of factors, but most importantly, how much idle time it has had, and how often it regenerates. And others, especially lifetime MPG, if she's been run off a mountain at 2200 rpm, 85 mph . . . lots of hard braking events.

    Now. Run a RIGDIG report on it. kinda like a Carfax. But better. Tells you if she's been in a wreck/kidnapping/train robbery, and all scale house violations. Cost ya $40 or so.

    311,000 miles may sound great - but - we had a similar truck (10 speed) - got to 440,000 and dropped injectors . . over . . . and over . . . and over . . . and a wiring harness . . . . twice.

    Company drivers. Minor inconveniece. You own truck? Add up 6 tow trucks and 4 sets of injectors, a harness, and labor. By the way, you can either not work during repair time, or rent a truck. Boo.

    Now what ya think!?

    How much do the fellas want for the ship anyhow? Concrete warranty?
     
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  6. BigJls1

    BigJls1 Medium Load Member

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    There is no good recomendation.
     
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  7. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Well, you're kinda stuck there. You have to have a compliant truck.

    Ideally, you move just out of state, never run California, and buy a glider with a pre-emissions new for $120k, or used for anything less.
     
  8. karma123

    karma123 Light Load Member

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    I'm honestly thinking of moving out of the state because I can't get approved for a new truck and the used trucks have to be compliant.
    Is California the only strict state with these compliant regulations? if I do move what is the best truck to buy other than the glider?
    thanks so much!
     
  9. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    DUDE! Now we can help!

    1995-2002 Pre EGR Detroit series 60, N-14 Cummins or 3406 Cat, or 6NZ CAT.
    13 speed is good, versatile. 3.55-3.70 rears, even 3.42, or 3.36.
    Whatever brand and color you like.

    All easier to fix/maintain/learn on. Cheap too - 9k-30k. Right now CA is the only EPA ridiculous state. Not to say others may not eventually follow - but . . . why wait for tomorrow?

    SEIZE YOUR FUTURE, young man. GO EAST, GO . . . EAST. Go forth and prosper. Or fester. Either one.
     
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  10. BigJls1

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    If you didn't run CA why in the world would you not get a glider..lol
     
  11. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Hate to be a Kevin Rutherford parrot, but the dude is right.
    We've driven these EGR beasts for 10 years now.

    Some times, they're gems . . . . other times . . . . they MYSTERIOUSLY disappear from the fleet and go to ARROW truck sales.

    Case in point. (and point?) - the ENTIRE stock of 2008 CAT F/Liners were sent back to F/Liner. MASSIVE problems. Yay for us - new trucks.
     
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