broker vs carriers rates

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  1. last load

    last load Bobtail Member

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    Just wondering ,Who does everyone thinks has better rates a broker or carrier,that put their loads on the load boards.
     
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  3. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Non asset based broker. They don't have the option to use their own trucks.
     
  4. generallee

    generallee Medium Load Member

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    I don't haul for brokers anymore. Shipper direct. The only way to make money!
     
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  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Really non asset broker or carrier asset based broker no difference. Load pay is always dependent on circumstances. Have seen really good and really bad from both. Asset based will pay any price on a good account for their own trucks when they're in a bind, just like non asset.
     
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  6. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    rank is correct, NON asset based Brokers have the better rates...

    The LAST thing you guys ever want to do is haul freight for a Carrier whom also has a Brokerage.....

    (Examples, Mercer,Landstar,Bennett,CRST,Schneider,And many others who post regularly their overflow and garbage lane freight

    I Think the WORST of them all is a Brokerage with SOME trucks up in Minnesota, Admiral Merchants Motor Freight..They take 35% From EVERY and ALL Loads,Every lane,Every direction, NO NEGOTIATION whatsoever
     
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  7. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Guys there are a few carriers, actually these would be more aptly called mega-carriers, that I've had the good fortune to name way over the top rates on many occasions and book the load. And they call back with more loads like that. Circumstance is everything. To paint with a broad brush and claim one has better rates than another jades one's perception and might have them missing out on something simply because"everyone says that's how it is". Again, circumstance is everything. Either asset based or not will pay big bucks or not whenever they have to.
     
  8. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    The circumstances that you speak of Rollin'...IME, is whether or not the asset based carrier has a truck available. The non asset based broker NEVER has a truck available.

    One asset based carrier put it to me this way, "Why in H-E- double hockey stick would I pay you that amount when I can use one of my own trucks?"
     
  9. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    I'm telling you when I brokered freight I never just took 10% off the top sometimes I would cover it for 50% less than I quoted the customer. I did a few times put a good rate on loads to get it covered quick LS agents would always call on my loads and had one move a load for me said he had a truck ready to load come to find out it never went on a LS truck and that agent was real quick to solicit the customer.
     
  10. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Oh yeah there is a real double standard with those LS A-holes.
     
  11. last load

    last load Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the answers,Ive been learning a lot of this since i got my mc last year.Hard to find shippers for a single truck.Been getting 1.70 to 2.50 a mile over the last year.I only run about 50000 miles a year.Ill try and deal with just direct brokers.
     
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