Breaking engine mounting bolts

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  1. Perchie15

    Perchie15 Light Load Member

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    2013 Peterbilt, Cummins signature series 600 IXS engine it has on it and keeps breaking off the engine mount bolts only on the driver side we jsut got the truck last January and they’ve broke 3x now in a year engine has 900hrs on it. Truck is a 2013! Just seeing if anyone else has heard of this issue and an easy way to solve it?
     
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  3. nasriza

    nasriza Road Train Member

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    Usually when i see this it happens because mounts are damaged or something is not lining up properly i dont know if you have tried to change all 3 mounts at once it should take care of the issue.
     
  4. Perchie15

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    No we have only changed the 1 on DS, well technically we’ve only changed the bolts. Kept the mount. Their because we looked into getting them changed and looks like a headache with aluminum threads
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    First question i have is how hard is the truck being used in the lower gears?

    Second is this, what are you using for bolts?

    Grade 8 or some grade 3 stuff.

    Many times when I see a mechanic crank down on MM bolts beyond their torque specs, it leads to being sheered off under stress.

    So use grade 8 or if you can afford them grade 9.

    And torque them to spec.
     
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  6. Perchie15

    Perchie15 Light Load Member

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    Not sure how hard I’d have to ask the driver, see if he’s even honest with it. We are in a lot of soft spots sometimes freezing brakes etc.. we are using the factory ones that Peterbilt sends us they’re a metric, and won’t thr grade 8s be same as the M10 also?
     
  7. nasriza

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    I’ve had all types of applications do this you have something going on with one of the other mounts or they r worn I’ve been here and changed bolts and one mount multiple time to the point I got pissed off of the truck coming back with same issue and changed all 3 with new screw and never had an issue since mine was a Volvo and we found that the front mount was damaged must have been putting extra stress on rears
     
  8. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    Yup.

    I have some documents with updated part numbers and procedure for this exact issue. Please PM me your direct email and I will shoot it to you when I get to work tomorrow.

    See attached for engine mount revisions- I have yet to see the upgraded 4 bolt mounts break when correctly installed.
     

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  9. AModelCat

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    Grade 10.9 are roughly equal to a grade 8 imperial bolt. Grade 8.8 metric are equal to grade 5 imperial.
     
  10. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    When I had my transmission rebuild, I told the shop to replace both motor mounts regardless. The passenger side was bad and the drivers side was fine. Regardless, they replaced BOTH. The mounts aren’t cheap but why pay for the labor later when it’s easier to get it done with the transmission out already.
     
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  11. pushbroom

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    Ether need to update the mounts to the 4 bolt per side style or drill out your 2 bolt mounts to take 3/4 bolts. It was an issue on the first series of the trelleborg mounts
     
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