Brake Chamber gone bad, got a couple questions.

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  1. Concorde

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    First time in 7 years driving dealing with a bad brake chamber on 2022 GD dry van with disk brakes. Also going to be the first time rescheduling a delivery due to a breakdown. Delivery isn’t critical ( junk from a business closing) but my ego is taking a hit.

    Trailer has been in service for 2.5 years and brake pads still look new since I go easy on them.

    I’m really just curious if 2.5 years is normal service life? The bad chamber is losing 5+ psi per minute so I put myself oos. Stuck at the Petro in Brazil, IN until tomorrow. They don’t have what I need in stock and it’s Sunday so I’m sol until tomorrow.
    The chamber that’s leaking bad has a yellow/green dust all over it. The chamber on the opposite side of axle same color dust but only a small amount. The rear axle chambers have just a small amount of rust colored stain which I believe to be normal.

    What would you do in my case, replace just the one chamber or all at once. Definitely I’m going to keep a spare in the truck from now on.
     
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  3. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Have all my tractors and a lot of my trailers with discs. Couple 7 years old and never had a can replaced.
    Part #'s will be a left and right or just use a universal, Will have to loosen the clamp and turn until the lines match.
    There's 4 "drain holes" make sure the only one open is on the bottom.
    I would carry one because not everyone stocks them
     
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  4. BoxCarKidd

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    I do not have any trailers here with air disc but I assume the chambers work the same way. I would get a caging bolt in it. They are easier to tighten if the brakes are released, do not get rolled over. Then set the brakes. A dime will fit in the swivel on many air hoses. Tighten it up and ride or block it off how ever you can. Needle nose vise gripes on the hose?
    Do that and haul butt.
     
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  5. Concorde

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    @wichris @BoxCarKidd

    Well all fixed..sorta.lol, I got crap luck with techs.

    I got the leaking chamber replaced and another replaced. Kept the one that wasn’t leaking as a spare.
    Feeling like I took it in the caboose at payment time…parts cost, markup and delivery fee seems ridiculous. Labor not bad $60.
    total bill $1,003.61

    Just kind of stewing over the price I decided to go under the trailer to see what I paid for and confirm there’s no other leaks

    Thanks to both your replies I know have a better understanding of what it takes to replace one myself. I’m quite positive I could do a better job than I received..even if I was drunk.

    Drain holes aren’t at the bottom..more like sitting at 7:30 and one completely covered by a sticker that isn’t going to just fall off anytime soon. Plugs on the top weren’t put on and for the finale…A cage bolt left on. I’m just guessing that would probably give the abs some issues.

    So there you have it. IMG_5126.jpeg IMG_5124.jpeg
    Couple pictures for laughs.

    Update: so I just got informed that the bolt I’m seeing is actually in its holder.
     
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  6. lester

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    leaking 5 psi a minute I would have kept rolling that's for sure. Unless a brake was dragging which I doubt at 5 psi/min.

    Just make sure if you change them yourself you know what you are doing or they are a spring loaded rocket.
     
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  7. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Brake cans are around 60-70 each. Did they gold plate them?
    Did they re-adjust the clearance? Can do it with the wheels on.
     
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  8. Concorde

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    Was probably more like 7 psi per minute. Compressor kicks on at 107 and pops off at 127. Was really just being generous with the 5 psi.
    Had already driven it 300 miles like that and didn’t want to abuse the compressor anymore.

    Had I been hauling a Costco or Walmart load that would be another story. I’m literally just hauling leftover junk from a warehouse closing and the receiver really doesn’t care when I get there.
     
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  9. Concorde

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    The cage bolt is gold colored :)
    “re-adjust the clearance” probably not would be my guess.
     
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    The disc brake chambers are not as cheap as the typical aftermarket drum chamber.

    I would be worried about the clocking of the chambers. Those brake hoses are hanging low may be knocked by road debris and the cheap hose ends will snap off. Note how the other axle are clocked higher.
     
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  11. Concorde

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    I agree and noticed the clocking wasn’t correct. Had he adjusted it so the drain hole was on the bottom everything would have been great.
    I’m going to have it adjusted better but I’m done with this place, too inept for me.
     
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