Boycott companies that do Hair testing!

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by gheor, Jul 4, 2013.

  1. thirdreef

    thirdreef Medium Load Member

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    Yes it is your time. But if your off time can in anyway effect your on time.. Then it's a problem. Many think well my time I can do a few lines or smoke a doobie.. And can't figure out how you failed a drug test.. That test can't tell when it's your time or on time. It just tells that you used one of the drugs that NIDA 5 picks up. Because your screwed up off time that turns to your screwed up on time.. Is now my time and everybody else's time. And we don't want you screwed up time on the same road with the rest of us.. Think of this. If you have workers comp, get hurt, and fail the post accident drug test.. It's all yours.. The workers comp will bail on you 100%.and when the company finds out.. They will drop you like a burning hot potato 100%. So you will be hurt, no insurance to pay for it out of a job and no unemployment.. Is your off time your time and business? Yes it is.. But use it wisely.and for every action there will be a reaction.
     
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  3. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    IMO..Weed is the least of our worries when it comes to drivers...What i see out there at those truck stops makes me wonder how some of these people are even driving..We have drivers with Mental Disorders,we have many that can't read or write English and we have some that are 500+LBS that can't even breathe...
    Until the DOT and FMCSA addresses these type of people then i am not to worried about some guy/gal smoking a joint on there ''off time''....IMO the people i mentioned in the beginning are much much more unsafe than a person smoking a joint on there off time...
     
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  4. thirdreef

    thirdreef Medium Load Member

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    First if one were to read that little green book that was given to you with FMCSA written on the front instead of throwing it in the glove box. One would know that being able to read and speak English is part of the law. Then if you pull up csa scores you will see that it is being enforced. Pull up JKC trucking in Illinois .. They have many violations for that. Second. Do you think over weight is all from feeding their face? Ever heard of thyroid problems? And who made you God about people's weights. In other words you want to discriminate against people that have an illness. As for mentally disturbed. Never seen it, except around a few landstar trucks, as the driver was panhandling. And yes weed is a major worry. But keep smoking it.. You will get caught up in a random eventually. Then you get to pull those signs off the side of your doors, go home and sit.. Because nobody can afford to hire people that show up positive.. If you want to smoke the stuff, you might want to look for a job in Colorado.. There it's legal to smoke.. But then there is those pesky Feds , and look or a non transportation job. Now the funny thing.. People don't think that what they write on forums like this, isn't read by companies that can contact the people that run this forum and find out who somebody is? From what you've written you must be a pot head, and would I hire you? Or keep you on in my fleet.. I couldn't afford you. I wouldn't want the FMCSA at my doors every day or want to fight with my insurance carrier on why I keep you. So keep writing this.. And ever think that those over weight can't speak good English drivers might be better than one that complains about them... Ahhh so that's it.
     
  5. 900,000-tons-of-steel

    900,000-tons-of-steel Road Train Member

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    I specifically remember crank being available in the '70s at $100 per 8-ball. Now, I was no saint in the 70s and 80s but didn't mess with this stuff. Nevertheless, I had to do a bit of research to make sure it wasn't MY memory that was skewered from my partying days. Check out the following link. It's like I remember ... crank was most certainly around in the '70s and even before that. Guess wherever you lived played a part in whether you were exposed to it but like the link indicates, I specifically remember the bikers having it and dealing it back in those days.

    http://www.crystalmethaddiction.org/History_of_Crystal_Meth.htm

    Regarding the coke, again I guess it was wherever you lived. Being in Florida, depending on who you know it was relatively cheap even during the height of the disco era depending on who you knew. I guess that's because the majority of coke in the U.S. was funneled into the U.S. via Miami and surrounding areas. Heck, just a few weeks ago some bales of coke washed up on a beach here. It still happens here, every year or so another few kilos of coke or bales of pot wash up somewhere. I'm sure it happens more than we know because we only hear and read about those incidents where those who find it turn it in.

    I remember the bennies and the speed days. That too, was never my bag. At one time I smoked plenty of pot and did my share of drinking but somewhere along the line the buzz changed from the pot. The newer stuff, from the late '80s forward started blowing me out instead of mellowing me out like the old Columbian and Panama pot did. I continued to burn for a while but when it started becoming mainstream and towns in California started deregulating it in the '90s, the stuff became full of chemicals, much like most of our supermarket-purchased produce provided by the evil giant MONSANTO ... full of chemicals and grown with toxins and all kinds of garbage.

    I drove flatbed for two years in the '80s and it was much like you said. It was a Wild West atmosphere and pretty much anything went. I remember drivers having two sets of "swindle sheets (log books)," one that was accurate and another to fool (swindle) whoever might be looking into it but in those days it seemed it was largely done because many drivers often had to document how much money they were making and just what they were hauling (many drivers hauled stuff off the books back then) unlike today where we have to keep them accurate to conform to DOT service hours.
     
  6. 900,000-tons-of-steel

    900,000-tons-of-steel Road Train Member

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    You're right, those tests do screw you up but what he does on his time doesn't translate into YOUR time in any way, shape or form, even if it DOES show up on a test. Because he smoked a joint on Friday night doesn't mean his driving is affected Monday and in no way does it equate him being "screwed up" on the same road with the rest of us. THIS is part of the problem today, that linear thinking and classifying some of these drugs, such as pot, as the DOT does. Alcohol can and DOES affect drivers the day after driving but that's not a problem ... simply because it can be out of your system in as little as 24 hours, even if you're experiencing a drunken, stupor of a hangover.
     
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  7. thirdreef

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    What I'm trying to say is that if you want to do drugs.. You don't want to be in any transportation industry. Funny thing is that many other industries do drug testing also, and they aren't required to do it. So sooner or latter it will catch up to you. At least in California, just about every construction company you are tested pre employment, post accident and random. A lot of white collar companies are the same.. Why? They don't want their workers screwed up. And like I said before.. Don't have drugs in your system and get hurt on the job.. And why do drugs any way? Can't you get high on life? Or is it that bad that you have to get your head out of it? It is also a fact that an average person burns 3/4 oz of alcohol per hour. Now think of this one.. You could be legally drunk when your arrested, but when you get a blood test you could be legally sober. Just like you could be legally sober when arrested, but legally drunk when you are tested.. how?
     
  8. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    Everyone does drugs everyday..Yes we have been indoctrinated to believe ''weed'' is a BAD THING and a DRUG..IMO it is NOT...

    I think there are more ''drugs'' in our food then the Government is willing to admit..This my friend is the TRUE DRUG.Just look at these fully developed woman at age 14 looking like 30.Are boys are 6'4'' 275 LBS in the 8th grade...Something has to said about the drugs being lased in the foods drivers and people eat everyday...

    What would you trust more.?..A plant that GOD put in his green earth or man made alcohol and chemicals in the foods...Myself,pass the doobie...:biggrin_255:
     
  9. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    I am a Landstar Driver and i watch Lesbian Porn and do not care that people Smoke Weed.I am a Landstar Driver and i am 100% against any government interference of our ''personal'' lives..I am a Landstar Driver and i DO NOT agree with Drug Testing.....

    But let's not talk about all the mentally disturbed wack jobs we see at the truck stops.Let's not talk about many of these OBESE men and woman smelling like a foul bathroom.Let's not talk about many drivers ''living'' like an animal in there work truck.Let's not talk about little new born babies living in an 18 wheeler.Let's not talk about many more safety concerns that i see everyday with these BUMS IN A TRUCK..

    Let's just feel like a Patriot and talk about some guy smoking a joint...On his time off,to boot....Wow,is all i can say.
     
  10. thirdreef

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    I just might be a landstar agent or work at the main office.. And will contact this website tomarrow to get your name.. Then we can see just how well one does on drug tests. See how easy that could work out for you.. One needs to think before they print stuff on the Internet.
     
  11. mikec265

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    I am ex landstar. 3rdreefer i bet you really do work at landstars corperate office. you seem to be just as smart as those people. (please note the sarcasm) Caffiene is a drug and i use it almost every morning. I guess i dont belong in a truck because of that.

    Putting these morons in automatic trucks, with automatic maps, and back up sensors/cameras is much more dangerous than the old school driver who smokes weed on his 34 hour reset. Dont forget that unopened 6 pack of beer in the cab. o man the guy with that beer is going strait to hell, isnt he? i dont drink anymore but, when i did i sure as heck deserved a couple at the end of a bs day on the road. i threw away a lot of beers just in case i got stopped. would i have hurt anyone if it was in the cooler and not in my blood stream?

    I highly suggest watching Carlins stand up on netflix titled " its all bs and its bad for ya". the guy hits the nail on the head every time
     
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