bills of lading, load boards, picking up freight, what do I need to know?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by mugurpe, Dec 26, 2014.

  1. mugurpe

    mugurpe Medium Load Member

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    So I've always run household goods, that's all I know. I've never run freight ever before in my life, never bumped docks to pick up anything but household goods, furniture or pallet loads of empty boxes. I know all the byzantine regulations for household goods paperwork but absolutely nothing about regular freight BOLs. I'm looking into trying to grab loads off of load boards as backloads when I'm done with my HHG runs but I don't know a ###### thing about it. I probably don't even know what questions I need to ask! I've been in business for 10 years, got my own authority (since 2011), equipment, insurance, etc. I do know HHG regulations are complicated so I'm coming at this probably over-thinking it.

    Do I provide the blank BOLs and fill them out? does a freight broker do that?
    If I'm using someone else's BOL, are they all the same or do I have to watch out for things?
    are there different levels of liability? Do some shippers opt for coverages and I have to understand that as well?
    Are there loads out there for drop-frame van trailers or is not being dock-height going to really screw me?
    I'll always have a sidekick so am I better off looking for hand-loaded loads? are those out there as general freight?
    Generally I'll be trying to get my equipment back to the north-east, any tips?
    What am I not thinking of?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  3. BASARAB

    BASARAB Light Load Member

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  4. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    did you not read his post ????? his is a hhg owner op with his own authority looking for regular to get him to hhg lanes. since he has a truck and his authority, what does he do park it while he goes company driver.

    and to answer the op question, the vast majority of the time , you get your bills of lading from the customer you pick up the load from, the other times if you fill out your own bill, they are simple and not unlike what you do now, the old to and from , addresses, number of pallets or products, est weight and have customer and yourself sign them and signed on delivery, its relatively simple , and no I wouldn't search out floor loads.
     
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  5. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    I know nothing about HHG loads.
    I get loads from "The Internet Truckstop" website. I call the broker/company that is listed as shipper. Usually when I get loaded the shipper has a BOL for me. If they don't I just fill out a blank BOL . the kind you buy in the truckstop. Have the receiver sign paperwork upon delivery and send with invoice to broker/company that hired me and wait to get paid. Sometimes I use a factoring company to get paid quicker and sometimes I just wait for broker to pay. Many companies that will pay within 10 days. Good luck.
     
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  6. double yellow

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    It's always a good idea to keep some blank BOLs around, but shippers almost always provide pre-printed BOLs for you.

    If you're not hauling hazmat, you probably won't ever have any issues, but here is the regulation:

    § 373.101: Motor carrier bills of lading.

    Every motor common carrier shall issue a receipt or bill of lading for property tendered for transportation in interstate or foreign commerce containing the following information:
    (a) Names of consignor and consignee.
    (b) Origin and destination points.
    (c) Number of packages.
    (d) Description of freight.
    (e) Weight, volume, or measurement of freight (if applicable to the rating of the freight).


    For most general freight you'll want $1,000,000 automotive liability & $100,000 cargo insurance, but some brokers/shippers require more.

    There isn't much for drop-frame vans on the load boards I use and most will assume a van is dock-height, but if you have a helper you may get away with some LTL stuff.

    Make sure you update your MCS-150. At the least, you'll want to add "general freight" to the categories you haul...

    You will also want to carry a laptop (or have someone at home/office with computer access) for getting set-up with new brokers. They will send you a carrier packet, you'll fill it out & return it along with things like:

    certificate of authority
    certificate of insurance naming the broker/shipper as additional insured
    proof of worker's comp or an exemption
    W9
    voided check (for direct deposit)
    references


    When you deliver the load, you'll usually give the receiver one copy of the bill of lading and they will sign one copy for you to fax/email/mail back to the broker/shipper.
     
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  7. mugurpe

    mugurpe Medium Load Member

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    Thank you, this is great info, and yes I studied double-yellow's company-to-independent thread thoroughly! A lot of good information in there and much appreciated. When I applied for authority i thought ahead and checked the box for general freight so I'm good to go on that and I already have the 1M/$100K for coverages so I should be good to go from that standpoint. We're not going to be doing any hazmat, just looking for something to throw in the back to make some backload money. We deadhead back empty a LOT and I'm sure I could make some money somehow. is this the sort of form I should have on hand?http://www.jjkeller.com/shop/Product/Straight-Bill-Of-Lading-Short-Form-Padded-3-PlyAnd yes, as most of the posters pointed out, I won't be getting a job running freight for another company. I already employ 15 people and have been my own boss for 10 years. If anything I would benefit from reading a "Independent to Company Driver" thread!
     
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  9. Jerry12

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    Ques: Broker-Carrier Contracts & then their Rate Agreements must be signed and exchanged between the two Companies before they may do business together. When your on the road...how do you do this?

    Curious, how have you addressed your Quarterly IFTA filings + Estimated Tax Payments, (State & Federal). Also, how are you handling your IRP record keeping.

    Have you found any States that Tax a Motor Carrier solely for driving thru their Great State, aside from IFTA or permitted States...NM, KY, NY, Or.?
     
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