Beware of M&H Logistics

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by Willpower, Dec 21, 2012.

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  1. mcgoo422000

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    After you get a few miles on that trailer you'll see what they're worth and why everyone sells them and gets either a car hauler or deck over.
    Let's see you put over 450,000 on one of them triple 7's? not to mention you're paying extra tolls.
    I pegged gary long ago he's tried to blow it off as i wanted to work with him. I still have some of the old emails we exchanged and there was never
    any mention of working for him. Go over to auto expeditor and ask some of his former dispatchies.
    gary's a con man form word go. Last tell was he's charging 1000.00 a month for his "load building" service.
    For that much you should be getting dispatched, billing and collection services possiblly ifta filing.
    Think about it 12,000 a year to put together crappy loads, who's getting over on who?
    If your doing 120,000 a year thats 10% for a little more you could be leased on somewhere and you'd get more benifit out of it.
     
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  3. Willpower

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    Someone posted a link to this thread on Gary's board and now he is over there defending himself. He even deleted the link. Guess he is scared the truth is coming out.
     
  4. truckon

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    Gary knows who you are,, or maybe he just is that stupid .. lol

    And Kenny is a dispatcher .. rofl
     
  5. BAYOU

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    I am.....for my own trucks that I own and the truth is I don't even do that I drive what people pay Gary ever week I pay to have someone in house and I have a real office I don't work out my house he needs to get his facts right before he opens his mouth

    All you have to do is look around and see all the trucks 4sale of people that has worked with him and if you really want to know I could do a better job than he could any day
     
  6. Willpower

    Willpower Bobtail Member

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    Ever notice that there are never any other dispatch companies allowed to post on Gary's board? Soon as they post a link to the site he deletes it. If you are truly trying to help someone out you give them all available options. Crooked as they come.... If you ask him for references he will say "our guys don't want their info given out" REALLY? I never met a driver yet that did not want to boast about the money he was making..... He says he has helped hundreds, but fails to mention that it was in making wrong decisions.
     
  7. MC2Xpress

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    I would delete them too. I run a message board myself and have over 1K members. I dont allow people to get on there linking to similar services. You don't build a following and an outlet to promote your business and let other people just come on there and direct people away from it.. Would you let someone come into your store where you sell Product X then have that guy stand around telling people where they can buy that product cheaper? No and I would kick the guys ### off my property too. This is the same thing.
     
  8. BAYOU

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    Good point but he deletes everything he don't agree with like a guy running texas oilfield can't use one of "Gary"s lowboy trailers" so someone else says doing what you do a deck over would work out better than Gary tell everyone how good these trailers are and that's all his guys use than next week that post is gone

    After he kicked me off (for having a fl70) a lot of us moved on to a different form I even seen him on here time to time so I bet he was told by one of his followers people were talking about him and more than likly he is reading all this

    Gary is not the hotshot god I think he don't even know what hot shotting really is most my mini float loads paid $3/mi and we don't need a sleeper we drive to get that hot load delivered once you drop than you can take your time home most the time my loads took me back home every night but about once a week I would be out a night. Gary is trying to turn a one ton into a semi truck that people live in for weeks and them 36" coffins his guys put on wouldn't work for me
     
  9. Willpower

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    Maybe, but you have to expect and allow differences of opinion when you have a public forum. IF your way is better it should stand the test of time and people's opinions should not matter. Lay it all out on the table. if you way, method or product is better and it stands the test of time, you will have loyal customers for life. The reality is that when you delete any negative post or pics or sales of trailers and equipment you are not allowing a person to make the proper decision. All they get to see is one side of the story. Gary has his opinion, he is trying to sell his services and his way of thinking, telling people that he is there to help them. Reality is that he is there to help, but it has to be his way, using his services. Most people that want to maintain a good business model will share the pros and cons of everything because they want the people that sign on with them to know exactly what they are getting in to BEFORE they start. When you delete the negative, there is no way for a person to evaluate what to expect. Gary's forum is full of great pics of loads, talk of high dollars per mile, money saved with the dodge etc. you can't find the negative though, unless it is about someone that did something different than what he says. Anything negative, or bad experiences gets deleted immediately. Bottom line is this.... IF Gary's way is so great and people are doing so well with it and he is helping SO many people, his reputation should stand for himself. Even if others were allowed to advertise, people would still be knocking down Gary's door to get in with him. People tend to be loyal to those they trust. Gary's forum is specific to Dodge owners, maybe he should make it an invitation only forum..... But I guess it's hard to boast by invitation..... I truly feel sorry for all those that lost so much using his services. Maybe, just maybe these posts will at least give someone the option to see that there is a better way. By the way, I have nothing to lose or gain by writing these posts. I got out before I lost everything and after a major equipment change, am doing very well. I dispatch myself, it is the best decision I have ever made.
     
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  10. BAYOU

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    I was thinking it was a exclusive forum?
     
  11. HammerToe

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    You guys are all correct! I recall someone asking a question on his forum about where doughboy and others had gone. I don't recall an answer or if the thread is even still there.

    I worked with them some time ago and did the same thing. Sat and Sat and Sat. Danny would blow up if called him and said that you found a load.

    Best advice for anyone reading this thread is to stay away from M&H Logistics and their ltlhotshot forum. There are other dispatch services out there, google them (ltl dispatch service or whatever), talk to them. I am sure you'll find one you can work with.
     
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