Best strap/chain to get pulled out of the mud?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Tb0n3, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

    4,279
    8,194
    Oct 5, 2012
    Earth
    0
    Years ago I got a 20'x1/2" G70 transport chain to get myself out of sticky situations and have rarely used it. It's an extra 50lbs so I wondered what the equivalent tow strap would be. Is the WLL of a tow strap calculated differently than a chain? What would you recommend as a minimum capacity to get dragged through the mud with a dozer?
     
    canadianrebel Thanks this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Steve from hutch

    Steve from hutch Medium Load Member

  4. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

    4,279
    8,194
    Oct 5, 2012
    Earth
    0
    There's a video online of a Jeep getting pulled when it snaps through the windshield, killing the driver. That doesn't happen with chains, which is why I chose chain in the first place. I'm not quite sure, either, how best to secure to a double tow hook setup like on the prostar with a single strap. The center wouldn't be reinforced like the eyes and would likely slip in whatever hook it's in, side to side. I assume the tow straps are rated for the stretch, where-as the chain will be used in slow power pulls with no shock load. This seems to be an old-hand vs data situation.
     
  5. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

    8,737
    12,184
    Jul 17, 2011
    The Village, Portmeirion
    0
    I've pulled 5axle loaded end dumps out of bad spots on a demolition landfill with a Dozer with 3/8 G70. That is really uneven ground underneath the mud to boot. I would say it's a minimum, but it's tricky. You need to let them (the puller) do most of the work and not get ahead of them and create slack in the chain. I'm sure a good recovery strap would be more forgiving with less weight.
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

    7,737
    14,421
    May 7, 2011
    0
    A good recovery strap will have some stretch/rebound to help tug you out. A 3/8" G70 has been sufficient for everything I've ever needed, though. Only time I've seen it break, I let a company driver use it to have a bulldozer pull him out. Once he had traction, he started driving forward...creating slack...then he stopped, and the dozer didn't. When that slack was gone with the dozer still powering forward and the other driver's foot on the brakes in the truck, the chain didn't stand a chance.
     
    Lepton1 Thanks this.
  7. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

    48,113
    219,512
    Sep 19, 2005
    Baltimore, MD
    0
    When what snaps through the windshield?

    I’ve seen links go flying when a chain let go.
     
  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

    48,113
    219,512
    Sep 19, 2005
    Baltimore, MD
    0
  9. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

    4,279
    8,194
    Oct 5, 2012
    Earth
    0
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

    7,737
    14,421
    May 7, 2011
    0
    Exactly. I never did find the hook on the short piece of chain that snapped off...had to buy another. Luckily the long end of the chain recoiled and went under the truck, not into the grille or windshield.

    Straps may recoil, but as long as the shackles are still attached to the vehicles, the soft strap really won't damage anything. Where you really have to be careful is if the tow hook (D-ring on my Mack) lets go, and now you've got a heavy duty shackle on the loose end of the strap as it goes flying.
     
  11. Steve from hutch

    Steve from hutch Medium Load Member

    There are videos of all kinds of one off accidents, chains have more kinetic energy when they break. It is simple physics.

    As to where to pull from? Either of your frame horns is acceptable to pull from, the off centerline pull is minimal. The sliding force to get a truck out of a slippery situation is as we have seen nowhere near the actual weight of the rig. That said, stupid driver tricks can instantly load either a chain or strap to yield or burst.

    Don't over complicate the problem, a bit of a tug will get most trucks going IF, you don't have an axle buried.

    Steve
     
    Bean Jr. and SAR Thank this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.