I was checking my truck over this morning to get it ready for the week and noticed the coolant level was just a bit under the max level(added less than 1/2qt). I went to add some and noticed that there was some coolant residue on the outside of the expansion tank and some around the threads on the top of the tank. Could it be that the cap is bad? There are no visable leaks anywhere else.
I've only had the truck for 15k and it hasn't used any coolant up until the last run I made this week. I have had the collant drained a few times while replacing hoses and shutoff valves that went bad, so it could be that I wore the cap out removing it so many times. The cap is a 15lb plastic cap like most of the newer trucks have. I just got my oil sample back from the last change and there was no coolant in the oil, but that really doesn't mean much since the problem just started.
oh, engine is a C15 acert with 300k on it. There was no white smoke on the last trip and no coolant in the oil.
bad radiator cap?
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I had coolant come out of my cap before. Replaced the cap and it hasn't done it since.
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one more question, when you look for bubbles caused be a bad head gasket , is a small amount of bubbles normal. When I was warming the truck up this morning I took the cap off the expansion tank and looked inside and there was a small stream of bubbles going from where the coolant dropped out of the return hose to the main part of the tank then the bubbbles disappeared. The bubbles were small, kinda like you get when you pour one liquid into another.
I've had so many small issues with this truck that I keep looking for something to go wrong, so hopefully it's just something simple like the cap and not something serious. -
Yes, some bubbles are very normal. There actually is a lot turbulence with the coolant flow that will get agitated and cause bubbles. Also the "MAX" line is just that, maximum! Don't overfill your system. We see a lot of customers continually overfill their cooling system and then think something is wrong with the engine because it is using coolant. Half way between the Max and add lines is perfect!
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Get the Cap tested, and wash the truck, as was stated the coolant level is checked when cold and is between the minimum and the Maximum.
After a run, then inspect for coolant leakage, and the discharge hose for signs it is discharging coolant. you can put a bag or plastic jug on it, to catch anything.
If it is blowing out coolant then you want to do a complete bottle test.
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part of my problem could be that I keep the coolant to the top of the max line. I noticed today when the engine is at operating temp the coolant is only a couple inches from the top of the expansion tank when the cold fill spot is at the max line. I had to order a cap since my local guy didn't have the right one so won't have that until Wed.
I checked when I got home tonight and there was a slight trace of residue on the side of the tank. I checked everything over when running and the discharge lines are flowing properly and there are no visable leaks anywhere and no smells that would indicate that coolant is seeping out and burning off. -
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update: I replaced the cap and sucked a little bit of coolant out of the expansion tank after I originally posted this(2 weeks ago) and haven't had any coolant loss problems until today. I changed the oil tonight and noticed that there was a small amount of dried crusty coolant on the lip of the tank and a faint trail where it ran down the side of the tank. The cap was tight. I think that I might still need to drain some more coolant out since it's still kinda high up on the tank when hot, but I would think it should've leaked a little before now. Only thing I've done different was I plugged the block heater in last night since it was going to get down to 28*F and I wanted to see if the heater worked. Could that have maybe caused a pressure build up to cause the leak? I checked the truck over last night before dark and the coolant level was where it has been for 2 weeks. I also had the cap on the oil fill pop off today and some oil came out and made a small mess down the side of the engine compartment, I put the cap back on tight and it stayed put on the trip home. I added some oil 1k ago and probably didn't get the cap on tight enough so this probably isn't related to the coolant issue.
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Cooling systems normally produce about 4-6 psi of pressure all the time. One of the first indications of head gasket or any undue pressure in the cooling system which can be many, is that it will exceed the pressure of the cap and blow coolant out. Caps can be tested for pop off pressure with the same cooling system pressure test kit. Cooling system levels expand when they get hot, which is why they have a fill to line, even for the over flow tank. Peterbilts are more sensitive to overfilling and will dump to their normal level of operaton. If a cap goes bad it will allow loss of coolant as you had. It is imperitive to maintain cooling system conditioner to prevent liner cavitation and thereby loosing coolant. The indication of rust on your oil fill cap is nothing to worry about.
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If your truck has the big black plastic reservoir mounted on the rad it will always leak a bit where the cap goes on. The sealing lip of the reservoir itself is too narrow and the plastic tends to warp over time. You will also notice a groove cut into the seal on the cap too. You can replace the cap, but the seepy coolant reservoirs are very common and somewhat minor. Just keep an eye on your level!
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