Backup alarm/backup lights issue

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  1. Dera209

    Dera209 Bobtail Member

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    Hello fellow truckers. I've been chasing an issue with my backup alarm and backup lights on my truck for some time now . Problem is when I'm driving forward my backup alarm and lights go off and on and, sometimes even when Im parked with truck in neutral and park brake engaged . It gets worse when I get the truck washed . I've checked wires on frame rails going to the back of the truck and found nothing wrong. I went through 2 back up switches on transmission. Have also changed the transmission shifter. The issue still persists. Because of this I put an aftermarket light to use as backup lights for which I have a switch in the cab and disconnected the alarm. Dont know what to do now please guide I want it to work normally. Truck is a 2020 PB 567 with eaton auto 10 spd .
    Thanks in advance
     
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  3. Magoo1968

    Magoo1968 Road Train Member

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  4. Goodysnap

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    I have not seen this exact problem yet. The reveres switch is normally open and closes contacts when reverse is engaged. You likely have an intermittent short to power on the reverse circuit somewhere on the chassis.
     
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  5. Dera209

    Dera209 Bobtail Member

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    I'm going to check all wires ince again .
    Is it possible that its ECU related ?
    It doesn't do it all the time .
     
  6. Westernstar321

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    Maybe try a jumper wire from reverse switch to backup alarm and disconnect the original power going to alarm and make sure there’s good contact for ground. This would eliminate any bad wire between reverse switch and alarm. I just had trouble with a bad ground for backup alarm and lights and it causing different issues with backup lights and alarm.
     
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  7. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    Anything is possible.

    Acts up when wet tells me it’s wiring outside the cab. Water makes the short happen more where the wires are touching.
     
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  8. Ridgeline

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    You may have a chassis module that sitting on the frame outside the cab.

    If you have a problem with water getting into the connector, then this would be the cause.
     
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  9. JB7

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    If it has a Chassis Node then A8 is the back-up input, C21 is the back-up alarm output. Pull off the three 21 pin connectors from the node and check for corrosion and or moisture. (Update: 567 does have a Chassis Control Module, about mid 2019 looks like it changed from a 3 to a 5 plug node. Vanderhaags has used for $650. New is about $1,600. I would make sure wiring is good first) Really need a wiring diagram and a multimeter. Without a diagram trace the wires from the tail-lights forward. There should be a connector between the tail-light harness and the rear chassis harness. Then trace the wires from that connector forward to the next connection. Find the hot wire for the back up with the truck in reverse. Then check voltage at each connection. Check ohms on each harness(es) for the hot wire, key off no power. With the truck in neutral and key on you could try to move the connections and wires to see if the alarm will come on.
     
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  10. Dera209

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    Thank you all for lots of useful information here. I'm going to wait until the weekend to look into it. I will also have my buddy this time with me, he's pretty good at dignosing electronics and I will be sharing all this information with him that all of you provided. I will be back with an update. Until then please keep sharing your thoughts on this . I appreciate you all very much.
     
  11. Dera209

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    Worked on it t today . Found the backup alarm chasis module. Tested the connectors and found nothing wrong. I was hoping messing with the wires on frame rail would make it come on but nothing . Even hosed off the wiring on the frame rail and backup switch . Couldn't replicate the issue like it happened while at truck wash. I'm going to see if I can get wiring diagram from the dealership and go from there. .
     
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