Automatic slack adjuster maintenance/adjustment

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  1. Dusty Boots

    Dusty Boots Bobtail Member

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    So we're having a debate at work right now on proper methods for adjustment and maintenance of automatic slack adjusters. I work for a fracking company and a few days ago I brought my truck over the pit for a service and a mechanic proceeds to tell me that they have been having problems with brakes failing because guys have not been maintaining their brakes properly. So for the next few weeks EVERY truck that comes in for a service, they want the adjustment nut on the brakes loosened one full turn against the ratcheting mechanism, everything greased, and then readjusted. I took a bit of exception to this for a couple reasons, number one, I was under the impression that loosening the adjustment nut on auto slack adjusters against the ratcheting mechanism can round out the teeth and cause the auto adjusters to fail. Secondly, which sounds a bit self righteous, but I religiously grease my truck bumper to bumper weekly and know that my brakes are in perfect working order. But the mechanic wasn't having any of that and said that it had to be done. I understand that he is just doing his job, but I was doing mine. So my question is, how detrimental to my brakes is it that they have been adjusted against the ratcheting mechanism? I was under the impression that the only way to "adjust" an automatic slack adjuster was by actually adjusting the amount of pushrod travel the slack adjuster allows before automatically tightening again, if that last sentence made any sense at all. Or am I overreacting with this whole thing, because at the end of the day I am responsible for the safe operation of this vehicle. Thanks fellas
     
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  3. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    As long as they're loosening it off correctly there shouldn't be an issue. I question their method of greasing, I see no reason whatsoever as to why loosening it off does a better job. The majority of problems with being out of adjustment has been with foundation brakes themselves, not the slack. Worn s-cams, s-cam bushings, return springs, etc. Any of those issues will prevent a slack from adjusting properly.
     
  4. Heavyd

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    If you have Haldex style of slack adjusters with a hex that takes a 7/16 socket you do need back it off against the ratchet to make sure the ratcheting mechanism is working. The ratchet in those isn't exactly like a ratchet tool. The ratchet is spring loaded. When you back it off it takes some effort to overcome the spring force and skip over the teeth. It still sounds like you are stripping it out, but that is just the sound of a good spring. With a weak or broken spring you can back it off with little to no effort and the slacks will lose their adjustment. Slack needs to be replaced. So in that regard, he is correct. As for greasing it too, well, as you back it off you are putting all the gears and cogs through a full revolution with fresh grease. You only getting fresh grease on half of the gearing and the old dried out grease on the rest. Those gears don't turn too much. Probably overkill. Might need to do that once a year or whatever.
     
  5. Dusty Boots

    Dusty Boots Bobtail Member

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    Yes those are the slacks that we use. Great post, thank you very much. And thanks for putting
    my mind at ease. As always great to learn new things from you guys.
     
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  6. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    Haldex, BPW, Knorr, Bendix and other auto slack ajusters are deisgnet as maitanance free, but... need lubrication and cleaning...

    sometemes I see they sezed, but some "manual" procedures makes them keep worknig....

    eeeh, now drum brakes are considered something like stone age technology, so get ready to fix calipers self ajustment problems!
     
  7. Pinner

    Pinner Medium Load Member

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    Let's not forget that to keep those brakes self adjusted, 90+ psi applications are needed regularly. I do mine every day, I think it keeps everything working and less likely to seize up.
     
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  8. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Yep, that's true! Good advice!
     
  9. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    Very true. If you actually do your brake check on your pre and post trip that should be enough to keep them in adjustment if everything is working correct?
     
  10. Steve D

    Steve D Light Load Member

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    No one ever told ME that! Course I don't have an application guage, so I guess I just apply brakes real hard now and then?
     
  11. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Just make a full brake application as part of your pre-trip. Make sure the parking brakes are already released, you do not want to compound the maxi's. Do not be afraid of breaking anything with too much pressure or force. In fact, this is time to find that air line that is about to blow, or any other defect that may fail during an emergency!
     
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