Arizona seat belt law, misdemeanor penalty, um, help?

That is not just an Arizona law, that is a federal regulation that CMV driver must wear their seat belt.

 

I've never had any luck in small towns, I don't care how "big shot" the lawyer is, if he isn't local. You need to hire the lawyer that goes fishing with the judge on weekends.

In the small town I live in, all the lawyers, district attorney's office, and judges are all friends. If you don't pick a lawyer from that group, it's a uphill battle from the start.

 

Give your hubby a clip for the seatbelt.
That way no tension on his bones.

 

Every truck I have driven has one on the belt that you can flip and hold the belt in place to keep it from tightening again. Located on the door post behind the drivers shoulder.

 

I realize this isn't going to help but....let's compare seat belt safety data with no helmet states..the "safety" hypocrites

 

I got placed OOS for being off 15 minutes on my logs by a Az state trooper.

My violation was a MISDEMEANOR - cost me $2,000 for a lawyer.

Like you I was equally surprised and upset.

 

Not hypocritical at all. In a car, if you aren't secured in your position behind the wheel, there is a risk of being bounced out of your seat. When that happens, there is a vehicle mowing down anyone and everything in its path until it finally hits something big enough to stop it. You can't maintain (or regain) control over your vehicle if you aren't in your seat.

On a motorcycle, by the time the helmet is going to do anything to protect anyone, the rider is already separated from the bike and it is well beyond the point where it would be possible to regain control over the situation.

The only person helped by the helmet is going to be the person who chose to wear it. A seat belt will help the person who chose to wear it as well as anyone in the path of your vehicle should something happen that would've bounced you from your seat.

 

I understand your points.

However, on a motorcycle the helmet is also designed to protect the rider from flying debris. Little rocks, bugs, etc can cause a rider to loose control causing a separation of rider bike in the first place. Choosing not to wear a helmet can be equivalent to not having a windshield in a car.

Secondly, are school buses required to have seat belts for all the passengers? A bus is thrown around more than most anything causing kids to fly out of their seats. There is a great potential for loosing control on a bus, but is it a law?

I agree it should be mandatory for CMVS to wear a belt. I personally think a five point harness of some sort, well designed, would be even better.

But safety laws seem to miss the point, esp in enforcement. Now, since csa, there is money in it where pre csa, there wasn't as much. In my driving since 1985, I have been inspected, cited and randomly pulled over more in the last few years than in the 20 or so before CSA combined. Does that mean I'm less safer than before? There's no logic to that quandry.

 

None of the helmet laws require any sort of face shield, they are simply for protecting the skull. The reason for the helmet laws is because head injury was the most common cause of death and disability in motorcycle wrecks, because even just tipping over at a red light and slapping your skull on the ground can kill you, or from the public cost standpoint, put you in taxpayer funded medical care for the rest of your life as a vegetable.
Face shields are just smart! Lol

A seat belt however, especially in a bus or truck where you can fall out of the drivers seat, makes it much safer for everyone else. (kinda hard to fall out of the seat in my Honda, or even my F350... Lol)