are you required to do 36 hr reset after 16hrs on duty

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  1. Sublime

    Sublime Road Train Member

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    You can use one per week UNLESS you've just come off a reset. So you could use a 16hr exemption on Friday, take a reset over the weekend and use a 16hr exemption on Monday.

    Yes. Unless you meet the conditions of the 16hr exemption. You MUST start and finish your day at the same location.

    You are not required to do so.

    True. You can work as long as you want, just not drive.

    Not necessarily just local. If for the past five days you've worked somewhere else other than home but started and returned to the same location you can use the 16hr exemption. Yes, it is an extension of the 14hr rule, it doesn't add anything to the 11hr rule.
     
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    The regulations are very important today more than ever with CSA2010. I suggest you stop at a truck stop, pick up a Regulation pocket guide (green and white book) and start reading them a little here and a little there. Your wallet will thank you and so will your CDL, especially in CA. Here's an online link to the regulations.... http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrguide.aspx?section_type=A

    Pay particular close attention to 382, 383, 390, 391, 392, 393, 395 and 396 which play a major role in your everyday driving. You'll see "Interpretations" in the top right and that will take you to a Q&A about that regulation where you'll find helpful questions.

    Okay reference your hours you say you regularly travel over 100 miles. Those days you are not exempt and must follow the rules. If by chance you stay within 100 miles than you can use the short haul exemption. Your HOS are all covered under section 395, particularly 395.1, 395.2, 395.3, and 395.8. Read them 4 sections over and over until you have it burned into memory.


    Interpretation 395.3


    Interpretations 395.1

    Here's a chart to simplify the hours rule... http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm

    How to fill out a logbook rules... http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8
     
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    CondoCruiser, you carry the weight of TruckerForum staff, therefore it's contingent upon you to give accurate info when you do. Your post is not accurate.

    The 16hr rule IS available to CDL drivers. You misstated the 100 mile rule as well. It's 100 AIR-miles. Not the same as 100 driven miles.
     
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    Following these rules...

    Exempts you from this rule...

     
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    379exhd Road Train Member

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    With what your describing only way it was legal was if you were bobtail theres some stupid personal conveyance deal in the rules that as long as your bob tailing you can drive the truck and show off duty.

    Hell just rip that page out and back it up a little bit, problem solved. Oh carry a bottle of simple green, Q tips, and silly puddy as well. One day you will understand why I'm saying this grass hopper.
     
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    Personal conveyance does not have to be bobtail but you must not be under a load.
     
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    I quoted the exact language. There is nothing in there about being bobtail or PC.

    One of our runs goes over the 14 hour rule but doesn't come even close to the 11hr driving rule. One of our drivers got in trouble for being over his 14. After doing the research and quoting it in written form for him to show the same officer, the officer admitted that what we were doing is completely legal. He's under load and returning on a relay operation to his home terminal.
     
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    Okay thanks I removed that sentence. I was referring to this rule... You don't have to be a snotty brat about it. People do make mistakes even me.

    As far as miles yes it is air miles. Where did I say different? I clearly posted 395.1 which says air miles.
     
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    Not being intentionally snotty. But the part of your post stating this being NOT available to CDL holders hit a nerve cause it was so wrong. I deal with drivers every day coming back to me with the latest from the truckstop lawyers and it drives me nuts sometimes.
     
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    Condocruiser....."snotty brat" ? Really !!!!!!

    And to think you gave me a warning .....

    Who gives you a warning for abusive language...... just sayin'
     
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