Applying air regulator to rear air bags

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by 1999blue, Jul 14, 2009.

  1. 1999blue

    1999blue Light Load Member

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    I want to reduce the air pressure to the air bags on the axles, What is the factory air pressure? I want to reduce the pressure to a safe level so as the jack shafts are not effected, but a softer rear end. Has anyone installed a regulator and who was the mfgr. Can some one help?
     
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  3. kwforage

    kwforage Road Train Member

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    why not just adjust the rod on the ride height controll valve? there should be a plate welded to the center the rear diff with a few differnt holes in it. try moving the rod down one hole and see how that is. are you just pulling an RV?
     
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  4. lowbudget

    lowbudget Medium Load Member

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    or go drive a spring-ride for a week, you'll be happy with the bags as they are...
     
  5. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    It doesn't work that way, you can't regulate the air pressure to the air bags for a softer ride. The amount of air pressure in the bags is related to the weight of the truck and load. The air pressure in the bag is the exact amount needed to keep the suspension at that height. The more air you allow in, the more air pressure is inside the bag. As the air pressure increases the bag will expand because the pushing force is increasing until the leveling valve cuts off the air supply to the bag. If you were to lower the air pressure in the bag to get your comfy ride quality the suspension will start to drop and ride height valve will allow more in to get back to the proper height. There may be only about 12 psi in the air bags to keep the suspension up when bob-tailing. With a loaded trailer you may need 80 psi to keep the right height. Drop the pressure to 50 psi, now you have less force pushing up the suspension. I hate to tell you, but there is nothing you can do. If your truck is too rough you need to look at the cab suspension, that is what is supposed to be cushy. If you have a solid ride cab suspension, you have my full sympathy!
     
  6. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    and if you lower the suspension much off factory spec you open up a world of hurt in repairs as it wears out U joints and the rear section of your transmission do to the improper drive line angles which also cause all kinds of vibrations
     
  7. 1999blue

    1999blue Light Load Member

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    Yes, I'm pulling a 36', 3 slider, 3 axle 5th wheel RV trailer, I want to cushion the shock coming from the truck frame. I understand the axle positions and the "problems of mis- alignment. Using a goose neck for this pull, K,City to AZ. It's going to be a one time pull. I've heard using a Semi truck can cause damage to the frame of the trailer, due to the stiffness of the truck suspension. I was looking for some slight solution which would prevent any damage, or reduce possible damage,,,, thanks for your comment.
     
  8. pullingtrucker

    pullingtrucker Road Train Member

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    If your worried about the truck "beating up" the trailer just install a typical goose neck fifth wheel. I have seen some that have a air ride type suspension between the fifth wheel and frame mounts. As far as the regulator, like the others said it won't work right. I have experimented with regulators going to my drive axles for when I sled pull. But in my situation I'm dumping alot of air to them not draining.
     
  9. 1999blue

    1999blue Light Load Member

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    Like I said, this is a one time pull from K City to AZ. At home I have a new air ride pindle mount with a built in air bag. We cut down the present goose net to set the ride height, I bought a goose neck adapter to connect to the fifth wheel on the truck , we mounted it all today and every thing for trailer height and trailer swing worked out perfect. we did have to move the truck fifth wheel to the rear, it now is about six inches forward of the trailing axle. Would you comment on where the pindle position so as to get a smoother ride forthe trailer. I thought positioning the pindle pin foward of the axle would give a better ride "than being centered over the axle? Hooking up electrical tomorrow and hope to be ready for the road. I want a un-eventful ride home. Thank for responding to my post.

    Rich
     
  10. pullingtrucker

    pullingtrucker Road Train Member

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    I really don't think moving the hitch point is gonna make any real difference in ride (whether it be for you or the trailer). The trailer is light to begin with so its probably gonna bounce around more than a normal class 8 trailer.
     
  11. Rock hauler

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    The more you move forward the better the ride, but like he said it's so light it's not much differance, but there is less bounce in front of center than behind. just ride a bus with a long over hang.
     
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