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Any "old timers" ever have a Cat 3306?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by RetiredUSN, Feb 23, 2015.

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  1. Feb 23, 2015 #1
    RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    Just curious as to how they performed in a truck. I know they were produced in a wide configuration & options. I have been around a few that were used in fire pump applications, but that's about it.

    Here's a pic of a Cat 3306 block sitting next to a 8 cylinder Fairbanks Morse 38 1/8 opposed piston engine. Fairbanks are pretty unique engines that have 2 crankshafts (upper & lower) with 2 pistons sharing the same cylinder.

    3306_and_Fairbanks_Morse.JPG
     
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    25(2)+2 and BeN DaViS Thank this.
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  3. Feb 23, 2015 #2
    Cranky Yankee

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    had a half dozen in boats ran forever
    one in a truck that was so so
    especially with as good as the 3406 was in the other truck circa 1980
     
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  4. Feb 23, 2015 #3
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    My neighbour has one in an 88 T450 tandem dump truck with an 8LL behind it. It does about 65mph on the mat! I think it has 4.56 gears in it lol!! I don't think he's ever done major work to it. I drive it and it drove nice. Not a powerhouse but well suited to that job. The only time it felt under powered is when I used it to pull a 3 axle float trailer and a Cat 320 excavator. It rolls a little smoke when you lug it around corners but it manages to pass the e test every couple years.
     
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  5. Feb 23, 2015 #4
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    a little low on power,smoke, dont get them hot, dont lug the motor,and they are painted yellow oh yeah bad fuel consumption. b safe out there
     
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    jbourque

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    retied usn thank you for your service. is that and old motor for a ship and the cat provided the power to run the lights?
     
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  9. Feb 23, 2015 #7
    25(2)+2

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    Not sure of the years available, but it was a lighter weight version of a Cat, and a guy I know had a White Freightliner cabover with a 325 Cat and a 10 speed. It was said the engine could be set at up to 365 horsepower, this truck was new in the early middle 70s and I moved it around the plant so he could drop it off to unload and go home. It hauled milk back in the days of 73,280 gross on 5 axles. He bought something else when he decided to replace it.


    There was and still is an outfit in Wisconsin that hauled milk with 270 Cats, same sound, only a little less volume, and even lighter. The company is still around but the kitty Cats are gone. Back then it was 250 to 350 Cummins, 425(mostly) Cats and the 71 Detroit, 6 and 6v, 8v, and 12v with turbos. I even moved a v-8 Mack with a 5 speed once, in a cabover, that was interesting.

    There's a guy I know with a round headlight cabover Freightliner with a 3406 but not one I know of with the smaller engine still running. Still some 3176 engines around.
     
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  10. Feb 23, 2015 #8
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    Hi 25(2)+2, I think the 270 Cat was under rated (or the 300 Mack was overrated) but a company I worked for in the late 70's had a 270 Cat in a 4200 IH, and that thing kept up to the Mack 300 I was in. I knew a guy that had a Pete 359 with a 450 hp 1693 dozer motor, called the "clatterpillar", because it was so noisy. I don't think it made a very good road tractor motor. That same company had a R-700 cabover with the V-8 Mack, and when you tilted the cab, the muffler stayed with the cab, and the mechanics would rev the motor with the cab tilted . Sounded pretty cool. I think that was rated at 325 hp. I could have driven it, but didn't like cabovers, so turned it down. Do you remember the name of the milk outfit? Wasn't A&H, was it?
     
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  11. Feb 23, 2015 #9
    25(2)+2

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    Korth and I'm almost sure they were driving new WF conventionals with the small Cat. They said the trucks ran well. The big Cats 425 and higher, ran really well with those weights and heavier.

    The Mack was a 350 Maxi-dyne as opposed to the 238 Econo-dyne, which was what Harvey, the guy with the Cat was trying(in a daycab conventional 5 speed Mack). He wound up with a Formula 290 Cummins, but I can't remember the make of truck. Kapraun Transpost, out of the Quad Cities ran WFs with Cummins, mainly cabovers and also mainly 250s, which were upgraded to a small turbo(called a 'smoke kit').

    They had some 350s and just a few conventionals, but I don't think they ran any 335s, something about them blowing up too easily, but I wouldn't know about that.

    Those Cummins motors ended up repowering and also being originally installed in quite a few large farm tractors and some construction equipment, a 335 turned down to 270 was installed by people I knew to repower a HD21 Allis-Chalmers dozer.

    It was said the best of those ACs was the HD19 with a 6-71 Detroit engine. Smaller Cummins were used in Dresser machines for awhile.
     
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  12. Feb 23, 2015 #10
    Cranky Yankee

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    glad I'm not old and remember all that stuff :biggrin_255:

    oh wait the 238 COE 671 Detroit
    maybe 60 on the NJTP
     
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