Anderson Trucking Service

Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by EdwinTheGreat218, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. EdwinTheGreat218

    EdwinTheGreat218 Bobtail Member

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    So with a friend and a cousin already over there, I'm curious to know what experiences anyone has had over at ATS, specifically Lease/Specialized division (working towards heavy haul/ oversized). The 2 lines I've already got over there have had nothing really bad to say about the company or lease program. As long as you know what's expected of you it's a good deal. I'm nearly ready to pull the trigger and go over and lease a truck and start haul'n but again just thought I'd reach out and ask anyone with more experience for their opinion.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    If you are going Spec, join it.

    I don't know anything about the lease side. But you are going to enjoy spec. Wanna haul tanks? That actually runs and drives? They do that. And so on.
     
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  4. EdwinTheGreat218

    EdwinTheGreat218 Bobtail Member

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    Yeah that's why I'm getn my TWIC now, wouldn't go back to dry van now so it'll be something new. Been midwest regional for the last year, and it'll be nice to stretch my legs again, that OTR bug worked its way in me and I've missed it, plus the money.
     
  5. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    i got a good friend that is over there doing a lease purchase and running oversize for them. been there now for roughly 6 months and is doing good. Goes home about every 3 weeks. Hes not been in the negative yet. He did explain to me that the first year is a traditional walk away lease. Then at the second year you have the option of getting a different truck and going straight into a lease purchase. The way he explains it that at the point you have the option to order a truck through their financing side and that if you so choose, you can move to a different company, but there are specific things that have to be met in order to do so. Of those, I have no clue.
     
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  6. EdwinTheGreat218

    EdwinTheGreat218 Bobtail Member

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    That is correct, my cousin leased a 2014 Peterbilt 386, and at the end of the year with the option to buy, he's only paying 38k for it but you have to go through third party financing for the loan. They give you options and seem to make it affordable. From what I've been hearing it takes about 2 years to work into the Heavy Haul side, which is where I want to be. So I'm not sure if itd be better to pay off a pete 386 like my cousin in 3 yrs and put another ### in that seat then either purchase a tri-axle from ATS or through a 3rd party dealership, or just lease for 2 yrs and walk away from that truck and purchase the tri-axle through ATS or a 3rd party dealership
     
  7. Rooster1291979

    Rooster1291979 Road Train Member

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    Not sure where you heard 2 years to move into heavy haul. I would not put much faith in that. I have friends that have been here for more than 6 years and have been turned down multiple times.

    I think part of the problem with people talking about coming to ATS heavy haul is that they don't understand how the company is structured.

    ATS specialized has several driver classifications. Starting at class 4. Unless you have verifiable OD experience you will start here. After class 4 loads you move to class 3. Loads get bigger. After 4 class 3 loads you are allowed to test into class 2. After 4 class 2 loads you are now class 1.

    After you become class 1 you may take the wind training class, provided you are a good driver with a good rep. If you're the kind of guy that runs late, can't run a permit or damages freight you won't be attending the wind class.

    Once you pass the wind class you are now class 1a. You can pull blades now.

    Here's the rub. Class 4 loads and most class 3 loads are a dime a dozen. Plenty of them. Class 2 loads are going to be more dependant on location and even time of year. I know many good drivers that took a year to go from class 2 to class 1 just because of freight.

    Also you have to pull certain types of OD loads to move up. For instance, you can pull 50 class 2 loads at 13' wide legal height and weight and only 2 will count towards class 1. You have to get 2 overheight loads as well. They must be overheight for the state's you are in as well.

    For instance, a 14' high load picking up in southern Cali going to Laredo tx is a legal load. Doesn't count towards class 1. You also need 1 value load. Has to be over a particular $ amount in value.

    Something else to consider is freight rate. How much you are making. Just because a load is OS doesn't mean it's huge money. When I get offers I will pick the best paying freight based on dest, weight and commodidity. Plenty of times legal freight pays more than OD freight because of established customer contracts.

    Finally if you are lucky and get your 4 class 4 loads, 4 class 3 loads and on and on till you get to class 1, and pull 5 class 1 loads you will get laughed at if you apply for heavy haul. 5 class 1 loads isn't even 10% of what they want for experience before you may even grace those hallowed halls.
     
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  8. barroll

    barroll Road Train Member

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    Their lease ops always ask a fair price on their equipment when they're turning in the truck. Grabbed 40 4"x30' chain end straps for $200 off the last one I came across.
     
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  9. Heavy Hammer

    Heavy Hammer Road Train Member

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    Ah c'mon, Heavy Haul is easy. You guys just try to make it sound all so complicated cause you wanna keep all the good freight and glory to yourselves...

    ROFLMAO!!!
     
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  10. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

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    Shhh...if only I could build a 4 axle Volvo out of western express truck

    I could haul those 500k loads and save on the push truck
     
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  11. TripleSix

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    I saw an old blue Gordon truck that was converted into a 4axle. Made me jealous.
     
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