The "ether trick" can easily end with a disaster as it can success.
I've seen tires blown off the wheel. Also had tires start on fire inside.
Good luck .
Air Tank Tire Bead Seater Blaster Frequency Use?
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by PE_T, Aug 28, 2019.
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Working with Virgin tires, and using a chick that I drilled the center out of and plumbed inline with a ball valve.
Michelin’s have always taken with out a Cheetah
Bridgestone’s 50/50 without
Goodyear’s once in a while with out.
And this follows with their respective economy brands
Tires that were just dismounted ( tire repair, etc) have a better chance to take without assistance.
I have used either once or twice, but after I experienced my first zipper I’ll never do it again. And I’m a big fan of tire cages, if you don’t have one of those available, a chain tied loose through the center and around the tire and to something solid like a trailer bumper. Anything that’ll keep the assembly from jumping 6ft in the air when the cords let go.!!!Rideandrepair, PE_T and Dino soar Thank this. -
More important than the tire cage itself is a remote inflation station that is far away and use it. You must also have a separation point at the station to deflate the tire remotely without going up to it.
If your doing road service. Always mount the wheel/ tire assembly to the equipment and then inflate remotely if you dont have a cage on your truck.Rideandrepair, Working2party and PE_T Thank this. -
Tires that have been stacked on each other are the hardest to get to seat the bead whether they’re virgins or recaps.
The beads are almost close to touching each other.
That took a lot of blasting with the air tank.
Our shop keeps them standing up in a row but some places where our tires come from may have stacked them at one point or another.Rideandrepair and PE_T Thank this. -
If you plan on staying in the game...a good tool investment is a good idea,and leasing,buying a inside storage space.
I got tired of paying 100 bucks an hour to subpar mechanics...
But,make sure you learn the right way,and double check all your work...take your time.
Your a step above 90 percent of all other drivers out there...many are too scared to maintain their own trucks,or don't want to.
And it wouldn't hurt to get certified in brakes and suspension....
Lastly, you'll be doing all the big jobs,(trans/clutch/motor mounts and engine tuning and diagnosticsRideandrepair and PE_T Thank this. -
I’ve done the either trick twice this year. I was very nervous about it. Utube has a bunch of idiots trying it. Not very encouraging, Lol. But it was no big deal. Worked great both times. Don’t use too much. About 5 seconds, at the most. Try less at first. Get it inside tire, make a trail down the sidewalk and onto the ground, a good foot away. Light it up, you’ll hear it make a swoop noise. The fire may remain on sidewalk for a few seconds. Keep that in mind. Don’t set the trailer on fire!!! It does work though. After a couple times you’ll be a pro. Another way to seal one is to pack Murphy’s oil soap around the bead. Also works good for lube. Put a ball of it into a gallon jug. Fill with water. It’s cheap enough. A couple spoons for changing tires isn’t too expensive. What other tools do you need? I should say, I wouldn’t do it off the Truck/ Trailer, even if it was in a tire cage.And never trust a used tire. If ran flat, easy to explode. 30 lbs of pressure, will kill you.
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I have done tires since befor etubless ones were even an option, and used gas until they changed it to where gas doesn't pop anymore. after that went to either until someone invented the cheetah, and never found it dangerous if you use a little sense.
I have used straps, the steel rings with multiple air nozzles, everything imaginable and the cheetahs and either is the only reliable way to air one up, should have invented it myself.
I watch tire guys have a hard time with them and even tru and show them how to use one, where it works everytime, unless the wheel is bent, but some would rather fight it, the same with tire tools, watching some tire guys is more exhausting than doing it myself. lol
All that said, michelin and now michelin made tires are the only ones that will air up consistantly with out one.spsauerland and PE_T Thank this. -
Pretty tough to find starting fluid that has any "pop" anymore. Had a Chinese road grader tire that looked like it was on bottom of the stack on the boat ride last month. Pretty sure to finally get beads to seat up it took about 15 seconds of ether. This was after trying with two bead blaster tools with 1/2 air line airing up wheel.
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