Air Governor Going Bad Maybe?

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by devile, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. devile

    devile Bobtail Member

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    Hi Guys,

    This is all relatively new to me so any advice is appreciated. It is -30C up here so that may have something to do with it, but here are the symptoms.

    On cold start, truck won't build air past about approximately 60 PSI. After warming up for 10-15 minutes getting some temp in it it still stays around 60 PSI (Sometimes it'll work without fault). By revving the engine to approx 2RPM multiple times it'll climb to about 70 PSI, then drop back to 60. Wait longer, rev some more (it's never the same) it'll then build up to it's 120. Sometimes if I tap on the governor then rev it'll work but could all so just coincidence.

    This has happened a couple times on the road too, seems to happen when pulling into a rest stop, pulling the brake pin then the air buzzer goes off and it drops to 60ish PSI. Following the same routine above will get it going.

    I've had the truck towed twice now to shops during a run and the shop runs tanor gas through it and whatever else then it starts working, of course in their heated shop too. $400 later and I'm back on the road, they tell me it mustve frozen but I'm starting to think that isn't the issue.

    Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

    Freightliner M2 8.3 Cummins.
     
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  3. kitCat

    kitCat Light Load Member

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    When was the last time you changed the air dryer cartridge? I change mine every year never had a problem.
     
  4. devile

    devile Bobtail Member

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    Just put a whole new air dryer in about a month ago.
     
  5. RustyBolt

    RustyBolt Road Train Member

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    Cold temps can make small unnoticeable leaks turn into problems. It may be that you have several leaks that are biting you in the butt during cold weather. However, air govenors are not too expensive. Swap it out. If it doesn't fix the issue, then you have the spare you should be carrying anyway.
     
  6. devile

    devile Bobtail Member

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    Now that we are having this conversation, we didn't have the problem until we replaced the air dryer... May be worth revisiting. Frustrating though, even a little leak can cause intermittent problems that high RPMs would save?
     
  7. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    Did you replace the air governor also. Some truck have the air governor inside the air dryer, it all one piece. Some have air governor is separate from air dryer. The air governor go bad and are easy to replace and cheap.
     
  8. Antinomian

    Antinomian Road Train Member

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    Where is it leaking from? Bottom of the dryer? It's probably either a bad governor or a bad purge valve on the dryer. I had a similar problem this year. I rebuilt the dryer and that didn't solve the problem. I replaced the governor and that did solve it. There is a message line between the governor and the dryer that tells the dryer when to pure. If the valve in the governor that sends pressure to the message line gets stuck the purge valve will hang open - until the governor warms up and the valve closes.
     
  9. devile

    devile Bobtail Member

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    It's a separate unit and wasn't replaced.

    It's not leaking from anywhere that I can tell. The dryer was replaced because it was cheaper to replace than rebuild. It WAS leaking from the dryer but that has been solved since replacing. Now you're saying the governor could need replacing, that's what I'm reading anyway?
     
  10. Studebaker Hawk

    Studebaker Hawk Road Train Member

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    I replaced my air dryer/ governor assembly last summer, a Bendix unit mounted on the end of tge air tank. Reman (Mexico) from Freightliner. Never has worked properly. Froze up this winter, first time for this truck in 16 winters.
    Replaced it with a new unit. Found my discharge line compressor to tank had a hole in it causing extended recharge times. Only leaks when compressor is pumping, hard to detect.
     
  11. Antinomian

    Antinomian Road Train Member

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    Yes, the governor might also need replacing. Does it fail to build pressure because the air compressor cuts off too early? If so then it's definitely the governor. If not, then the compressor will still be running while the pressure hangs at 60, and air has to be leaking somewhere. You need to find out where.

    You are sure there is no air blowing out of the bottom of the dryer?
     
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