AC help on tripac. Low side is low. High side is normal.

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  1. cainekh

    cainekh Bobtail Member

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    Hi
    I'm completely stumped with my tripac. I just replaced my compressor after it went bad. Vacuumed the system. did not replace air dryer as it was replaced just a few weeks ago. The unit is cooling moderately well. Compressor however is not cycling on and off unless it reaches the desired temp. Low side pressure is reading 6 when it should be reading 45. My high side pressure is reading perfect at 225. Any ideas what's causing this scenario.
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    Caine
     
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  3. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Stuck expansion valve.
     
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  4. BrianE

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    Sounds like it's low on freon. Did you fully charge the system? You might have a leak.
     
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  5. BullDoggin

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    sounds like it's undercharged to me.
     
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  6. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Commonly what happens is the system is working until something like this happens. Once the system is recovered and vacuumed the needle inside the expansion valve seats slightly different and gets stuck. Then everything is reassembled and charged and you get behavior like this. Now, I should have asked before, you said the compressor failed... did it put metal into the system? How did it fail? If you have metal in the system, now you have a lot of work to do and money to spend.
     
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  7. cainekh

    cainekh Bobtail Member

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    There is 1.5lbs of freon in the system with no leaks. It held a vacuum steady for over 30 minutes after the pump was turned off. Prior to replacement of compressor the clutch was working but the compressor was locked up causing the unit to die immediately. There could be shavings in the system. Where would I look? Is there a strainer or a filter in the lines anywhere?
     
  8. BrianE

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    I just looked online for information on the Tripac. I did not see any mention of an expansion valve anywhere in the system. If it does have one, Heavyd would be correct. If it does not, it would have to have a fixed orifice tube in the liquid line or in the evaporator where the liquid line goes into it. A fixed orifice generally has a small filter built into it.

    If you are going to attempt the repair yourself, be very careful of the high pressure lines. They get very hot when the system is operating and will burn you.

    Just out of curiosity, did you check the sight glass while the system is running to confirm no air bubbles. Air bubbles would indicate low freon).

    If you do not know which is the liquid line, it is the smaller diameter line between the condenser and evaporator.
     
  9. Heavyd

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    It may have an orifice tube. The more I think about the more I can't remember, LOL! Regardless, if there is metal in the system, chances are it has found it's way here and causing trouble. When you take off the old compressor and check the ports, if you see metal shavings it is a safe beat it is throughout the system. The receiver/drier will not filter everything. With a system that has had metal contamination you are basically looking at flushing all the lines, replacing the expansion valve, (or orifice tube), replacing the condenser and evaporator. Unfortunately, your new compressor may need to be also replaced again if metal from the old one has gotten to it. Evaporator and condensers can be flushed, but not you cannot be 100% certain they are cleaned fully. This is why is it highly recommended to just replace those components. This is expensive and must be done thoroughly and properly the first time or this vicious cycle will just repeat itself. Flushing must be done with the proper chemicals. This really isn't something for the diy'er. I recommend to have a professional do this if you find it is contaminated.
     
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  10. cainekh

    cainekh Bobtail Member

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    User Country has indicated there is an expansion valve near the evaporator. The freon level is fine so I'm going to replace the drier and the expansion valve. Thanks for all the help guys. I can't afforded to keeping paying TK and arm and a leg to fix stuff anymore when their work is sloppy. I've had some bad experiences with their repairs. Anybody on here have a TK dealer they recommend?
     
  11. MNdriver

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    I would recommend the one out in Kent WA. Avoid the one in Spokane WA.
     
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