I have a 2007 379 EXH - Classic Interior
My A/C was warm so charged it.
Now only getting air temp at around 50 degrees on 65 degree day. Which won't do anything for me if I hit an 80 degree day. Plus the A/C in the sleeper is warm... Not hot, not cold, just warm.
And I notice green like fluid at the Compressor....Is that a good sign of a leak or normal.
I am very tempted to install a new A/C Compressor. But as we all know that will be a nice chunk of $$
Looking for ideas or advice...
-If new A/C compressor. Buy the aftermarket ClimaTech on Peterbiltparts.com or just buy the OEM one for another $150?
-If I go this route - then I might as well vacuum the whole system out... replace the drier, replace the orifice and what else???
-The local Pete dealer says there is only one Orifice. If so, where is it and how to remove it? Tips or hints?
-With the system down what should i do with the sleeper A/C as in service or replace?
Thanks for all advice and ideas and or input you all have.
A/C Problems
Discussion in 'Peterbilt Forum' started by wagasser, May 12, 2014.
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That green fluid is probably oil with dye in it., meaning the compressor is leaking. Get yourself a UV light and glasses, they're not expensive. Since you have dye in it already, you can look over everything and make sure that you have no other leaks.
We've had good luck wth Climatech and Airsource. The most imortant things are that the system is clean, had oil in it and the dryer is replaced. No matter what compressor you use, they will not warranty unless you changed the dryer too.
The orifice tube is in a line by the dryer. Look for small divots/crimps by a fitting. They crimp the pipe to act as a stopper for the tube. Then disconnect that fitting and the orifice tube slides out. They can be tough to get out sometimes, just take it easy so you don't break it. If the orifice filter is plugged up with debris, take it somewhere to have they system flushed.wagasser Thanks this. -
Are you sure it isn't coolant?
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Thank you all for your responses.
I will look into checking for more leaks and see what I find.
One other thing I forgot to mention is that when the Compressor is running there seems to be a slight high pitch whistling noise. Or is this just me wanting to hear something. I honestly don't want to spend a lot of $$ fixing this thing. But I also don't want a bearing to go out and it locks up and breaks my belt as I am driving down the road.
Here is a pic of the compressor on my truck. Without removing it I can't tell or find a part # on it.
Curious if you all might be able to tell by looking at if this is the OEM unit? I am guessing it might be. I am the second owner of the truck with only 532,000 miles on it.
Thanks again for all your help.
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The green fluid is PAG oil. That's what lubricates your compressor. If you're seeing it at the compressor, you need to check to see if the leak is at the hose fittings, or from within the compressor body. If the latter, a rebuild/replacement might be in order. If you're losing PAG, you're losing refrigerant, as well.
Have the system evacuated, replace the compressor and your receiver-drier. Before it gets recharged, a vacuum will be pulled for at least 15 minutes to ensure that you don't have leakage in the system. If the vacuum checks out, it's all good in the hood, and you can recharge the system.
If you don't get adequate cooling at that point, then you need some further diagnosis. First thing I would do is cut off coolant flow to the heater control valve... if your AC suddenly gets cold at that point, your heater control valve is tits up. If that's not it, then you need to get some manifold gauges and see what your pressure readings are. That does a lot to narrow down the issue. -
Ok - more good points.
This pic shows where the PAG is coming out. Will a rebuild kit fix a leak like that?
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You really wouldn't need a complete rebuild, but, with the mileage you have, it wouldn't hurt. That's a gasket.
On the receiver-drier note, I say that because you always want to replace it whenever you open up the system and introduce atmospheric air into it.... between the expansion valve outlet and the compressor inlet, the refrigerant will change state from a low pressure liquid to a low pressure vapor, and it's refrigerant in vapor form which goes into the compressor.. the receiver-drier contains a desiccant which traps liquid and ensures that only refrigerant in a vapor state moves on to the compressor... atmospheric air will fully saturate this desiccant in a matter of minutes and render it useless. -
Thank you for explaining the receiver drier and what it will do. I have it ordered and a new orifice if needed.
I apologize for the dumb question here. But for your advice to install the new gasket to the the compressor. How would I go about finding that gasket?
I guess the thing I am up against is do I want to take the time to actually work on the compressor or should I just bite the bullet and install a new compressor... I am thinking that my down time for the new compressor would be less. -
You might want to just change the compressor and drier to save time and know you are starting the summer with new parts. The rebuild could be tricky as there are a couple of seals behind the clutch that are tricky to get in exactly right if I recall. If you rebuild the area in your photo you still have an old clutch. The last Climatec I bought for my 2000 379 was about $225.00 about 2 years ago . The change out of the compressor took me about 2 hours including the drier. Definitely change the drier as all have said. Good luck. Zircon
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So I decided to go ahead add some more freon.
1.25 lbs to be exact
Temp outside was 72
Temp in cab at the vent was 38
Temp in sleeper at the vent was 69
Gauge readings
Low: 30
High: 160
In the pic below you can see the Low side line.
The temp of the line was 37 degrees.
At the T where the freon should be going to the sleeper it was warm, so no freon is getting to the sleeper.
Any input here or advice? Guessing maybe an expansion valve?
Thanks for any and all input.
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