A/C Fill Freon Fill Amount

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  1. sailboatjim

    sailboatjim Light Load Member

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    I've got one of these Bergstrom under seat A/C units I'm working on and it is in an International with sleeper.
    I'm guessing it's going to be 3 to 3 1/2 pounds or 36 and 44 oz but I don't know for sure. The only thing I could find on it said 134a.
    Sticker is gone completely.
    Got it vac down and ready to fill.
    Anyone?
     
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  3. asavage1576

    asavage1576 Light Load Member

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    If you can't find the spec just fill it until pressures are correct
     
  4. sailboatjim

    sailboatjim Light Load Member

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    I put 36 oz. in it waiting for a reply and the low side pressure was 30 and the high side never gets above 250 and then the fan kicks on and it heads down to the 150 range or so. The fan kicks off when the low side pressure reaches 20 or so. It takes quite a while for it to reach 250 on the high side too. I'll bet I'm still just shy of the correct fill but the sight glass on the new dryer shows no signs of bubbles at all. I got in it and drove around and it's cool but not cold. I can see the expansion valve opening and closing on the pressure gauges. I evacuated it for about 45 minutes with a vac pump. I had to replace all the freon check taps and o rings. They were all leaking. Like I said the Bergstrom under seat a/c has no freon fill info on it at all and I have search the web high and low and haven't found it.
     
  5. asavage1576

    asavage1576 Light Load Member

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    Ya. I would add a little more. Our day cab Pete 365's take 44oz
     
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  6. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    3lbs if you have a Sanden, 4lbs if you have a CCI compressor.
     
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  7. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    that sounds pretty close to correct pressure wise if charging on a relatively cool day. keep in mind that pressures will be higher on a hotter day than on a cool day.

    if it happened to be fairly hot out when you charged it i might add a touch more Freon. charging by pressure is not perfect but you can get the charge pretty close. i don't have a way to weight my Freon so i normally just charge by pressure so you should be fine just charging by pressure in absence of knowing the Freon amount the system holds. i really should get some kind of scale to put under my refrigerant bottle.

    overcharge can effect system performance as much as undercharge so sometimes you have to resist the urge to "add a little more"
     
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  8. sailboatjim

    sailboatjim Light Load Member

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    It's a CCI Piston type compressor.
    I've got 3lbs in it now.
    48 oz
     
  9. Longhood379

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    check your pressure after the system has sat for 8 or so hours, the pressure should be very close to the ambient temp, 70 psi at 70 degrees F . if it will cycle the compressor and kick the fan in you are really close, overcharge creates extra load and lots of extra heat
     
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  10. BoxCarKidd

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    When dealing with the unknown or the just does not do right units I charge by thermometer with in allowable pressure levels. Open all the doors and set unit to fresh air if applicable. Put therm. in outlet vent with a known low charge and add freon about 4 oz.at a time. Allow time for system to stabilize after each addition and check temp.( takes a few minutes 3-5 ?). Keep adding intell the temp. increases and back up.
     
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