94 freightliner FLB tach

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  1. Oakcityarms

    Oakcityarms Bobtail Member

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    I have a 94 FLB cabover with a Detroit 60 series 11.1L and eaton 9 speed. The truck runs and drives great but the tach doesnt work. The previous owner said his son had the HP turned up, i dont know if that would affect it or not.

    I noticed driving it around that you could tap the guage and it would move the needle but it wont move at all on its own. Been doing some research and im curious if the dip switches need to be changed since the engine had been turned up.

    Since the truck starts and runs fine, i assume the sensor is fine and the ECM is reading it. But im pretty sure it has a flywheel sensor and does not read from the ECM.

    Any help troubleshooting this would be huge help. Also is there anyway i can install a standard 1 wire tach in its place?

    EDIT, My vin is 1FUPBCXBXRL421083
     
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  3. Oakcityarms

    Oakcityarms Bobtail Member

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    Today while idling, i tapped the guaged and it went to zero
     
  4. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Replace the gauge if not also the cable that feeds it from the engine speed connector.

    You cannot drive a truck properly with out that gauge. Yes Ive heard all about by ear and all that (Been there done that...) but to be at your best you need a working gauge that is accurate.
     
  5. Oakcityarms

    Oakcityarms Bobtail Member

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    That was my first thought also until i learned about the calibration using the dip switches
     
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  6. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Yes I am familiar with the dip switches on computers but not in big trucks. A minor detail that has escaped me until now.

    Thank you for your reminder. That opens up a can o... a barrel of worms now don't it? Might as well be western diamondbacks.
     
  7. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    Tach is probably bad. 25 year old truck, not a surpise.
     
  8. Oakcityarms

    Oakcityarms Bobtail Member

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    Any idea on the location of the tach sensor?? Dealer says its in the trans tail shaft but i doubt that. Should be on fly wheel or front cover i would think
     
  9. SpeedyGonzalez

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    I've got a 96 FLD with a cummins and it's got it on the passenger side of the flywheel housings. If they're in similar locations you might be able to see it with your hood down, I wouldn't be surprised if its backed out a bit, mines got a jam nut that you have to get super tight or itll just back right out. My tach is bad as well unfortunately for me, the cummins ecm will go into limp mode if the speed sensor is bad so I know it's my tach. Spent a month of trying to figure it out before i came to that conclusion, they go for a pretty penny online and an arm and a leg at my dealer. Talk to your dealer though, see if you can get a build sheet, my build sheet has dip switch positions from factory, it's a decent reference especially if you don't know how it's been played with.
     
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  10. Oakcityarms

    Oakcityarms Bobtail Member

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    Ok so found out that this truck does not have a stand alone tach sensor. Dealer claims its a speed sensor in the tailshaft of the truck. Should be a 4 wire. But that doesnt sound right. The rpm at the tail shaft would be completely different than the engine and im pretty sure it would not be spinning when parked.

    However i also did skme digging and found out that some DDEC 2 trucks had a terminal on the back of the alternator that fed the tach. Someone has replaced the alternator with a completely different alternator that looks nothing like the factory one.
     
  11. SpeedyGonzalez

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    I'm unfamiliar with detroits but I would recommend you try measuring the AC or DC voltage present at the plug, it should steadily increase with engine RPM. Because you stated it was functional previously that most likely disqualifies the alternator tach drive idea. That most likely means you have a sensor in the flywheel housing, just a little background research shows that it's inductive and will be highly sensitive to the gap between the flywheel and the pickup. I'm wondering if the 30 pin connector at the ECM is contaminated or not seated well, if you are seeing a voltage that increases with RPM your tach is most likely caput. If it's jumpy and all over the place I would measure the resistance of the wire while someone jiggles the wire to make sure it isn't internally broken.
     
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