70 mph vs 65 mph

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  1. The Breeze

    The Breeze Light Load Member

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    How much fuel is my company going to save by cutting the speed of my truck from 70mph to 65mph?

    How much loss in productivity will this reduction have in time and miles?

    My company has estimated it will save them .1 mpg in overall fuel consumption and I'm guessing it will cost me around 30mins per day or about 150 miles per week.

    Will the production loss cancel out the savings gained? Will they really save that much fuel or, maybe more? Will I really loose that much time or not? Let's find out!

    My average burn rate for the months of Jan and Feb is 6.6mpg. Here's a screen shot:
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    When my truck does get castrated, I wonder how much that will go down?

    Time/speed. I love those days when I can ride my 11 hours with an average speed of 67mph. Here is a screen shot of what I can do as far as mph on a good day when I'm running at my best potential in a 70mph truck.

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    Above I averaged over 67mph from Gulfport MS to Laredo TX. Now this is a best case scenario and doesn't represent an overall average but, it does show what a 70mph truck can do when I'm driving at full potential. Of course I'll never have a day like that in a 65mph truck. Currently, 64.3mph is my average weekly cruising speed with a threshold of 35mph. I'm wondering just how much my averages will go down and the amount of time it will boil down to?

    I reset my fuel Summary before I started this past week and I still averaged 6.6mpg. This includes driving in WV, KY, OH, IL, TN as well as down into TX.

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    I think they're onto me tho...

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    It won't be long before my truck is due for a PM and I'll be cut for sure. When it is, I'll post a comparison to see what the differences will be.
     
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  3. The Challenger

    The Challenger Kinghunter

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    What kind of truck is it? Please include the specs please. I will say most of the time truckers have told 5mph means 1 mpg. Maybe medicineman or Bronc can go into further details. I know a Volvo traveling at 65 with a van will get a honest 6.5-7 spec'd out right.

    Kinghunter
     
  4. 2xR

    2xR Medium Load Member

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    I had an antagonistic fleet manager once that I just couldn't seem to get along with. Our problems were probably mostly my fault, but, I refuse to let a good fight wither on the vine, so I kept him in turmoil all I could.

    He announced one morning that he was cutting my truck back to 55 mph. He was picking on me because the remainder of the fleet was to remain at 70 mph. I think he was upset with me over some other issues.

    I considered resigning, but decided to mess with him a bit more before I did. The next time I fueled, and each time thereafter, I made sure to fuel next to an owner/operator. I would give them (no charge) 10-15 gallons of the fuel that was suppose to go into my tanks. This killed my mileage by about 1 mpg. After about six weeks I brought this decrease in fuel mileage to the fleet manager's attention. He said I was crazy, stupid, and that sort of dismissal.

    The next day I was told to take the truck into the shop for a "warranty" repair. In about thirty minutes it rolled out the door, still without an explanation about the repairs. As soon as I hit the interstate I knew what I had suspected was true. The truck would get up there and cruise at 70 mph, again. Nothing else was ever said about fuel mileage.
     
  5. The Challenger

    The Challenger Kinghunter

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    Oh my lord, what company was this? If you can't reveal it over the web, PM it over to me. That is some funny stuff you pulled. Knowing how crazy myself is, I would have done something along those lines as well. That is some funny shi$.

    Kinghunter
     
  6. 2xR

    2xR Medium Load Member

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    That occurred in the late '90s, and, this regional company is still in business. I best not reveal their name, even in private. Stranger repercussions have, and, may happen. :biggrin_25524:

    Oh! If you want to amplify the fuel mileage difference even more, pay for ten, or, twenty gallons of fuel, out of your pocket, each week for the truck you drive. Of course don't show it on the fuel report. You'll blow their minds. With today's fuel prices, that would be an expensive proposition for most drivers, but ten years ago, it was pocket change.
    :yes2557::biggrin_2559:

    The point is, if a driver so desires, he can manipulate the fuel, at the pumps, to convince a fleet manager that an 80mph truck can get better mileage than a 55mph truck.
     
  7. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yup the best kept secrets are never told to any one!!!!
     
  8. The Breeze

    The Breeze Light Load Member

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    I'm in an International 9200i, full size sleeper[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica] and a[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Cummins engine[/FONT]. 500 I think.

    I don't doubt they'll save fuel by doing this. I just couldn't find where anyone had posted anything like this and figured I had a unique opportunity to do so. I guess using a before and after of the queercomm's calculations should be pretty telling.

    So I should see an increase from 6.6mpg and I'm wondering how much my average cruising speed will go down to.

    Other drivers are telling me that it really seems like the power level of the motor has been cut as well as speed.

    Here's another question in all of this; If my speed is cut, shouldn't my rpms go down? Right now it's about 1550 at 70mph.

    If my speed is cut but my rpms stay about the same, is that just a cut in power?
     
  9. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    When the top speed is cut the RPMs will go down. If your company has the computer set for power at 1550 RPM and it drops to 1450 at 65 it'll feel like it lost power simply because the engine is operating out of its power curve.
     
  10. 2xR

    2xR Medium Load Member

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    Usually when a truck is speed governed it only effects high gear. In other words. to keep the horsepower and torque working like they should you will have full power, and, rpm while in the lower gears. As soon as you shift into high (the "big hole") the truck will fall on it's face.

    Yes, your high gear rpm will drop. It will drop right out of the peak power range and from this point forward the truck will faint at the sight of a slight grade. Sorry about your luck, and, I hope you learn to love shifting gears.

    Depending on the transmission ratios, and the rear end ratios, you might want to try cruising on the interstate in the gear just under high. The truck might actually pick up a couple of mph, and it will surely attack the hills better. You will also negate any possible anticipated mpg gains your fleet manager has in mind.
     
  11. KCCW

    KCCW Bobtail Member

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    Most newer engines peak torque is rated below 1500 rpm anyway...if you try
    running in a lower gear to mess with the fuel mileage they might just cut you
    back even further. I know plenty of owners who would if they had a driver who refused to try and cut back on one the most critical expenses facing
    them right now.
     
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