6ts 40 pin file

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  1. Leer5000

    Leer5000 Bobtail Member

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    I have a 98 factory 550 6ts in my 06 glider. My ecm went out, so I bought a used ecm from a junkyard. The file on this ecm was a 450hp pre low nox 5ek file. A guy I know put fls fts codes in, as well as injector codes. Truck seems to run really well but does get up to 900 on the pyro pretty consistently, grossing 155k pounds. What I'm wondering is if this file is ok to run on a factory 550 6ts, as far as timing and compression is concerned? I am happy with the power, but I don't want to hurt this motor.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    900 is fine.
    What you should do is get that ecm calibrated for your engine . Right now the timing is calibrated for the engine it came off of. So timing could be anywhere..
    After that if your happy with the power then run it.
     
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    ^^^^what he said. Also you said the shop did trim numbers. Did he load the correct trims for the injectors or load one of the (hot ) trim codes ?
     
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  5. DieselTech_Aus

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    what injector part number is the 550 6ts compared to the 5ek 450? I though the 455hp 5ek files were for smaller injectors? the research of the test spec numbers I just did shows that your engine being a 6ts 550hp is fitted with 0r4894 injectors. the 450hp 5EK engine is fitted with 0r4893 injectors which have a smaller tip. the 5ek 450hp ECM you have on your engine is calibrated for 450hp with small 4893 injectors, so it would be commanding a decent pulse width to deliver the fuel required for that power. now as your engine sits the ECM is commanding a decent pulse width thinking its controlling 4893 injectors for 450hp. the ECM has no clue that the decent pulse width is commanding is controlling the bigger tip 4894 injectors that are actually in your engine. you're mechanically getting more fuel than the ECM intends because you have bigger injectors than the ECM thinks. I would have a guess with your current set up, provided the trims entered were standard and not "hot" ones you'd be near 500-550hp. if the trims are "hot" ones then god knows how much fuel you're getting.

    fitting bigger injectors with a file that thinks it has significantly smaller injectors is one of the things we do to make decent grunt on factory files. I often fit 3.0 tip 8502 into engines with files thinking they are controlling 2.8 tip 8501 injectors.

    personally I would just flash your 6ts 550 file onto this ECM, its a fast simple task.
     
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  6. Leer5000

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    Thanks everyone for the response! Yes afaik, the file was from a motor with 57 injectors and I have 58 injectors, which was another one of my concerns. As far as injector codes- they are hot codes. 5323 (I always mix it up, but the generic hot injector codes people use).

    I have access to hundreds of cat files, but have no way of knowing what file is which. Does anyone know what a pre low nox 550 58 injector file is labeled as? I would love to flash to this file and see how it runs, and feel better knowing it's right.

    Thanks again!

    Lee
     
  7. DieselTech_Aus

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    flash your original 550 6TS file into this ECM and load the factory trim codes, not hot ones.

    if you want more fuel and power fit a bigger injector, don't stretch your PW on the small tip injectors. wrong way to make power
     
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  8. Leer5000

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    I don't know what file my original ecm has because it's dead. No point in going bigger than a 58 injector for my purposes. Hell even 57s would work just fine, I just don't want to run a 57 file with 58 injectors. Just need to know what a 550 58 file is called so I can load it.
     
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  10. Leer5000

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    Thank you!
     
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