5th wheel adjustment

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  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I can feel some slop in my 5th wheel when I pull out and if I'm loaded heavy in stop and go I can feel it.

    When the trailer is hooked up I don't think I can reach it to adjust it.

    The way I understand it if I make it too tight and I back under the trailer I won't be able to release it.

    So if I lock the jaws on the 5th wheel can I make the adjustment a little at a time and test it under the trailer?



    But can I do it a little at a time like that is that OK?
     
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  3. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    What 5th wheel are we working on?

    Adjustments should always be made with a test pin, not with a trailer on.

    Beg, barrow or steal a test pin or pay someone that has one.
     
  4. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Sorry I meant to say it's an FW35 Holland.

    If it's really that serious that you have to have a the test pin I either would buy one or take it to someone but I was just curious if I could do it without one.

    I would imagine buying one would be more expensive than taking it to someone so what kind of a shop would have that if I needed to go to a shop?

    And I'm just curious what is the difference between using a test pin or gradually adjusting with the trailer itself?

    I am sure that you will give me good advice @Goodysnap.
     
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  5. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    Back the nut off a couple turns and latch with tool. If the rubber and steel washer is hard to turn when latched back off more until loose. Once loose, retighten the nut until the washers rubber and steel are hard to rotate by hand. Unhook and relatch during the adjustment process to recheck as needed.


    This should achieve near zero movement. If slop still exists consider rebuild or replace.

    Detailed instructions are available at SAF Hollands website for free.

    The weight of the trailer is the issue. You need to be able to move the tool ( trailer) to check the movement. Fore and aft. Hard to do while connected.
     
  6. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    I just loosen the front nut, till I can turn the washer by hand, while hooked up snug. Goodysnap is definitely right, should use the proper tool. I never have. Once it’s worn out, backing it off, all you want, with the washer so loose, there’s a gap you can see, and it still has slop. It’s wore out. Still works, but has slop. No more adjustment left to be done. Holland has some good specs on their website, showing the proper tool, and procedure. I’ve always done mine that way, it’s lasted 20 yrs. Going to replace it with another FW35, best fool proof simple designed fifth wheel, IMO.
     
  7. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    If your handy with a welder you could surely buy a replacment pin for a trailer and build one for much cheaper.

    I'm sure the Holland tool is priced out of this world. Havnt looked to know for sure.
     
  8. BoxCarKidd

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    You could adjust it connected to a new trailer. Empty and legs slightly loaded.
    If you adjust it up to a worn pin it might work great. However if you hook up to a trailer with a pin that is not worn it can jam. The handle will not pull even with a come a long.
     
  9. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    Now I’m worried. When I put my new fifth wheel on, Will it be adjusted correctly from the factory? Or do they usually need to be adjusted? If it gets jammed, and can’t pull the handle, then what do you do? SOL?
     
  10. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    That’s what I should do. I have a good welder, he’s very reasonable, wonder how much a new pin costs. Can’t be too bad. I’ll call tomorrow, find out. Why take a chance?
     
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  11. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    You sell that truck and trailer together! :D

    I've been adjusting my Jost wheel with my trailer (empty) little by little. I've been kind of blown away asking around different folks how few of them know the first thing about a 5th wheel. I didn't either but I'm learning.
     
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