50 ft independent sliding spread

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  1. Big_D409

    Big_D409 Medium Load Member

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    Hey everyone. Did some searching on here and came across a single thread about the benefits of a 50' spread axle trailer. Sadly it never gave enough information, or really any that I was interested in. I checked out an 03 Great Dane 50' independent sliding spread a few weeks ago and the guy still has it for sale. Unit has 13k hours on it and everything checked out to my liking, minus the price. Plus I had research to do and figured someone else would snatch it up. To my surprise, no one has? I've tried to talk to a few guys that have been running refrigerated for quite some time and never got a clear cut answer about it. How practical is a 50 foot trailer? I understand that some places only want 53's, but would the pro's outweigh the con's? I have come across a few guys running 48's and they mentioned that a 51 can load the same amount of pallets as a 53. Mind you this was before I even thought about getting anything less than a 53. So is a 50 ft trailer just not worth giving the time of day to without having a dedicated customer or (with the understanding that it'll be more work getting loaded) am I thinking to much into it? I appreciate any input you guys/gals can share. Thank you!
     
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  3. lots of character

    lots of character Road Train Member

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    Well, you're 36" short... Just paint 53' on the side of it, and tell everyone its 53'

    I'd only pay back up trailer price.
     
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  4. mountaingote

    mountaingote Road Train Member

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    More and more comedians out of work....
     
  5. Flyer

    Flyer Light Load Member

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    It's a 50' independent slide, strike 1, it's a 50', strike 2, He still has it for sale, strike 3. End of story.
     
  6. Big_D409

    Big_D409 Medium Load Member

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    I figured there was a limited market on it. If he's willing to let it go for dirt cheap I'd probably buy it (I wouldn't pay more than 7k for it). It's listed at 14k, but I recently bought a 53 ft in immaculate condition for 11k with 12k hours on it. Thanks for the response though!
     
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  7. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    really depends on your freight.....most places that require a 53 never need it&most of the rest you have to fight w/to get them to load past the 48'mark.....so the whole things silly imho....but independent slidin axles add quite a bit of wt.....which would concern me more....i wouldn't just rule it out....but the price would have to b right....and relatively inexpensive decent used reefers are gettin easier&easier to find.....good luck
     
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  8. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    It has its place, but less flexibility than a 53.
    It will take 24 pallets without pinwheeling, and room to close the doors. 53 will take 26. A 48' reefer has a bit less than 47 foot inside

    102 wide will take 28 pinwheeled, I think, and a 53 will take 30, I know.

    53s are marked on the front corners and are not allowed on length restricted roads. I know the rules are ignored quite a bit, but the 53 advertises its length.

    As to heavy, I saw a 53 with a sliding fixed 10'spread, that one looked heavy, and the 41 foot rule comes into play with 53 or greater?,but not shorter as far as I know.
     
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  9. mountaingote

    mountaingote Road Train Member

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    41 feet does indeed apply to a 50ft trailer. A sliding spread would be fine as long as you make the Cal bridge boys happy. When 48ft trailers first appeared we always had to have the tandems slid forward 2 or 3 holes from the back (at least). My boss just bought a 48ft cow wagon because they have been deporting the 50s on railcars.
     
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    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Still be heavy. I forgot about the livestock trailers, and a 48 foot spread would be how long with an 18 inch kingpin setting?

    Poultry is being hauled on spreads if it goes any distance, although we did have some older closed tandem turkey racks.
     
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  11. Big_D409

    Big_D409 Medium Load Member

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    I appreciate the responses! Sorry for the delay. I found some notes I wrote: 24 inch king pin, 96 inch inside width, pulled to 30 degrees within 20 minutes, extra xmembers around tandems (for independent spread), no broken xmembers and no rust around sliders.
    Wouldn't be worried about California, but still have to be current on bridge law. Right now with our 53 tandem, I keep it at the 41ft mark (center of rear axle) and try not to move it, keeps majority of weight on drives and I hate bringing the tandems all the way forward. Partly why I want a spread.
    I'm heavy with my truck to begin with. With our dry van, I try to stay under 44k. Have a really hard time scaling north of it. Never really worried about it because the furniture was always under 20k.
    I thought it could work. People have said there's no trade in value on it, and quite frankly I have a hard time parting with anything. We are working on more direct contacts and a few "paths" we are trying to go. When asked, each place said "we prefer a 53, but can load a 48."
    I will head back over and check it out again at the end of the week... unless it's already gone. I should note that the connections are wired for if I had dump valves on the dash. So that was another pro. Really though I would only get it if the price was right. As someone told me "Don't let it own you".
     
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