389 ride height again...?

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  1. Chevyho

    Chevyho Medium Load Member

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    Not sure if im still having ride height issues or not. 09 389 low air leaf. I changed the levelling valve and set ride height to 8.5”. Now on gravel roads the ride seems to be very rough. Would say an inch of ride height even affect the “stiffness” at all? It looks to be sitting higher then before but it only measured 7.5” before I changed the worn out valve. Here is a picture of the valve and height compared to 24.5 tires. Anyone have a picture of theres to compare? Thanks in advance.
     

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  3. boneebone

    boneebone Road Train Member

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    You need to set it to factory specs, unless it's at factory specs already.

    The more air that's in the bag, the stiffer the ride is going to be.

    If the bag sits higher on its base compared to before, there's too much air in the bag, which means the height isn't correct.

    Call the Pete Stealership with your VIN# and ask them what the ride height should be and where to measure it from.
     
  4. Chevyho

    Chevyho Medium Load Member

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    My dealer told me 15-3/4” from base of bag to bottom of frame. Has anyone heard of this measurment, it looks like thats where it sat before and rides well there. Everything else I read says 8.5” center of axle to bottom of frame. Its about 1.5” difference between the 2.
     
  5. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    The correct spec of 8.5"axle center to bottom of frame. This is the laden spec. Unladen is 8.75". Any other measurement is false. The best way to do this without the proper gauge is measure axle center to ground and measure frame to ground and subtract the two measurements. Dont guess because an inch off can make a world of difference. Make sure your on level ground when measuring. Dump the bags to cycle and back up to full height and recheck again after adjusting. Leave the engine running to make sure air pressure is maintained during the adjustment process. I prefer to take the measurement between the drives.
     
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  6. Chevyho

    Chevyho Medium Load Member

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    When I set it at 8.5” it rides terrible and vibes on highway. Rides very nice and smooth where i have it using the 15-3/4” measurment which is probably around 7.5” the other way. Should I leave it or change it? Am I going to wreck the driveline running it how it is?
     
  7. Chevyho

    Chevyho Medium Load Member

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    Other thing is, the levelling valve arm sits parallel with the frame at this setting.. if that means anything, its just odd
     
  8. pushbroom

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    I would leave it where it drives with no viabration. The whole idea of ride heights is to get the diff angles correct so there is minimal harmonic vibrations caused by the u-joints.
    The listed height spec is more of a guide of where to start at. To do it correctly, driveline angles need to be taken and punched into a corresponding program such as Eatons Driveline Angle Analyzer. Low air leaf would typically be looking for angles like 1.6 front diff, 6 interaxle, 11 rear axle.

    I normally would adjust a truck with a tape measure first, then confirm/ fine tune by running the angles.
    Leave it at the height that doesnt vibrate. Longer life for the u joints and syncro.
     
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  9. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    While I agree the temporary thing to do would be to adjust the where the vibration is minimal to prevent further damage to components. If the ride height is set to spec and a vibration is present, something is wrong. Start measuring and find out what's off to fix it right.
     
  10. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    Best answer. Factory spec does not mean correct. Factory kicks out drivelines at wrong angles all the time and by putting it to factory spec can cause an issue. Wish quality control would be taken more seriously! Trial and error, patience and tape measure.
     
  11. kranky1

    kranky1 Road Train Member

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    Factory ride height spec will get you close. You have to go off the driveline angle and set your ride height to that. If you have an iPhone they have a wonderful little level in them works awesome for checking shaft angles. My ‘05 has AG380 and the ride height specs are the same. I have to set mine to 8-3/4” loaded to get my shaft angles correct. That suspension is 6 different kinds of a pia for holding adjustment too. I’m at that one steady.
     
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