2018 Cascadia, no high wiper function pls help

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  1. wtokhi

    wtokhi Light Load Member

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    Hey everybody,
    Got a 2018 cascadia daycab that came in with no wipers or turn signals. Found the wiper motor disconnected which I assume was done by the driver, upon connecting it the wipers turned on high and wouldn’t shut off as If the wiper stalk switch was disconnected. After hitting the battery cutoff switch and resetting the wipers didn’t come back on but now they wouldn’t turn on. There was a code for Aux Micro controller on the SSAM and wiper motor blockage. I swapped the wiper stalk switch and there was no difference. Swapped the SSAM with another unit and no difference either until I swapped back and then the switch began to work. But now it only works on all functions except for high, on high the wiper stops wherever. Giving power from the SSAM pin to wiper high the motor works fine, but the SSAM only gives ground on that pin when the switch is active whereas the low works correctly and gives power. Using IO controls on diagnostic link the wiper high function registers as on when the switch is activated but no movement from wiper motor. Checked continuity from stalk switch to SSAM and all checks out. And I know the motor works on high from when I give it direct power. Also randomly the tail lights stopped working and come and go with the signal lights. No power from the tailight output pins but lights come on under direct power. It looks like it the Sam module but it’s already been swapped, idk what else to check.
     
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  3. Varga

    Varga Bobtail Member

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    High Speed Inoperative
    1.
    Measure the voltage on pin D of the wiper motor.
    1.1
    Set the stalk switch to HIGH, and turn the key switch to the ON position.
    1.2
    Insert a conducting probe and measure the voltage across pin D on the wiper motor.
    Does the pin read system BAT voltage?
    YES → Verify that the linkage is not loose or slipping. Remove the suspect wiper motor and replace with a test wiper motor and retest. If the failure does not duplicate, replace the wiper motor.
    NO → Go to test 2.
    2.
    Measure the voltage at SAM Cab pin X21.15.

    With the stalk switch set to the HIGH setting and the ignition in the ON position, measure the voltage at SAM Cab pin X21.15.

    Does the meter read system BAT voltage?

    YES → Perform a continuity test between SAM Cab connector X21.15 and wiper motor pin D, and repair any open circuits.

    NO → Go to 708 — Stalk Switch Troubleshooting to confirm whether the SAM Cab is receiving the proper signal from the stalk switch. If the proper signal is being sent to the SAM Cab, replace the SAM Cab.
    NOTE:
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-024 SWITCH ASSEMBLY - WINDSHIELD WASHER
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-082 SWITCH - WINDSHIELD WIPER CONTROL
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-001 MOTOR ASSEMBLY - WINDSHIELD WIPER
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-003 WIRING HARNESS - WINDSHIELD
     
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  4. Varga

    Varga Bobtail Member

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    Stalk Switch Troubleshooting
    1.
    Verify the operation of the stalk switch.
    1.1
    Remove the MSF from the dash.
    1.2
    Insert conducting probes into MSF connector C, pins 8, 9, and 14.
    1.3
    Set the stalk switch to each suspect wiper mode and measure the voltage across each pin.
    1.4
    Compare the results to the values shown in Table 6 .
    Do any wiper modes fail the test?
    YES → Go to test 2.
    NO → Reconnect all connectors and perform a functional test to determine whether the problem is intermittent. Repeat troubleshooting as necessary.
    2.
    Test the wipers using a known good stalk switch.

    Remove the stalk switch and install a test stalk switch and repeat the steps from test 1.

    Do any of the wiper modes fail the test?

    YES → Remove the stalk switch harness and perform a continuity test and replace as necessary.

    NO → Replace the stalk switch.
    NOTE:
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-024 SWITCH ASSEMBLY - WINDSHIELD WASHER
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-082 SWITCH - WINDSHIELD WIPER CONTROL
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-001 MOTOR ASSEMBLY - WINDSHIELD WIPER
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-003 WIRING HARNESS - WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR


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    Wiper Motor Specifications

    Stalk Switch, Binary Coded Pin Values
    Stalk Switch Function
    Binary Coded Pin Values (volts)
    C
    B
    A

    OFF
    0
    0
    0
    Intermittent 1
    0
    0
    BAT
    Intermittent 2
    0
    BAT
    0
    Intermittent 3
    0
    BAT
    BAT
    Intermittent 4
    BAT
    0
    0
    Intermittent 5
    BAT
    0
    BAT
    LOW
    BAT
    BAT
    0
    HIGH
    BAT
    BAT
    BAT
    Table 6, Stalk Switch, Binary Coded Pin Values
    Wiper Motor Specifications
    Condition
    Typical Current Draw
    (load dependent)

    Low Speed
    3-8 Amps
    High Speed
    4-8 Amps
    Locked/Stalled
    28-30 Amps Maximum
    Table 7, Wiper Motor Specifications
    NOTE:
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-024 SWITCH ASSEMBLY - WINDSHIELD WASHER
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-082 SWITCH - WINDSHIELD WIPER CONTROL
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-001 MOTOR ASSEMBLY - WINDSHIELD WIPER
    Component Code / VMRS = 002-035-003 WIRING HARNESS - WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR
     
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  5. Sm0kie

    Sm0kie Bobtail Member

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    pull the grounds off the MGJB (driver side on fire wall) and clean the eyelets and the gnd bar.
    If it still happens, Check pins on stalk switch and icu make sure they're not spread.
     
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