2007 Freightliner Columbia with a 60 series Shutting down, stumped!

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  1. Farmboy135

    Farmboy135 Bobtail Member

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    I have a 2007 Freightliner Columbia with a 60 series with a auto trans/with clutch. I’m a farmer and this is my semi I use to haul all of my gain from field to farm and farm to grain elevator. I’m not a master technician by any means but I’ve been doing a lot of my own tech work on farm equipment for 10 years after finishing an Agricultural Technology Mechanics school and I have basic to moderate diagnostic skills in electrical work.

    My problems all started on my first load of grain this September when the truck would stall out(cel/sel came on briefly, lost throttle for 1-2 seconds) and then the throttle came back and lights shut off like nothing ever happened. Then a couple of weeks later the problem started evolving or getting worse or I have another problem. Going down the road the truck loses all power(gauges all go to 7 o’clock then sweep clockwise and back and engine shuts down and no sel/cel or any lights appear on my dash) and I just coast to a stop, I wait a couple minutes and cycle the key every few seconds or minute till I see the cel/sel and I start the truck right up and take off again.

    I’ve taken this truck to stoops Freightliner and spent a couple thousand in diagnostic time and on drive time and they’ve let to find anything. Here are all the things I’ve fixed or replaced or checked or tried. The worst part about any of this is that it’s not storing any codes before or after the shutdown.
    Swapped ECM’s with a known working truck ecm off exact set up,
    Cleaned all of the connections for the ECM’s and sensors I’ve replaced,
    Changed out the Cam Sensor,
    Changed out the Crank Sensor,
    Changed out all the batteries for new ones,
    Changed out barometric pressure sensor that runs EGR,
    Cleaned grounds and replaced terminals for many of the grounds,
    Replaced the ignition relays infront of passenger seat under dash, checked for power at ecm in all 4 pins tht have 12v from battery all the time.

    My local shop has spent two days tracing wires and connections and we are at a stand still. Any help is good help, call or text me(Tyler) 7658943009 or reply here. If you fix my truck I’ll make it right with you no matter where you’re at.
     
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  3. tallmon

    tallmon Medium Load Member

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  4. Farmboy135

    Farmboy135 Bobtail Member

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    Someone suggested that but I haven’t tried that yet, I will try that.
     
  5. tallmon

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    I've also had a chafed wire from alternator and another from starter bouncing around and grounding against the frame.
     
  6. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    May be a heated relay that supplies power to the engine.
    I had a 2006 Century, it had two master relays, one for accessories and one for the engine.
    First the accessory one acted up. I would lose heater fan, wipers, etc . After many minutes everything would come back on.
    Eventually I bypassed the accessory relay and never had a problem. So I replaced it.
    About a year later the engine and gauges just up and died going down the highway. I swapped out the engine relay with the accessory relay and the engine and gauges came back to life, but the accessories were now dead.
    Worth a shot and they are super cheap to buy.
     
  7. Farmboy135

    Farmboy135 Bobtail Member

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    I’ve inquired about that and mine doesn’t have the engine relays, some do and some don’t depending on what they came with. I was told IF mine had them they would be in front right side of firewall under hood in an electrical compartment and mine doesn’t have any electrical boxes under the hood besides harnesses.
     
  8. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    Mine was in fuse panel by glove box. But the Columbia’s do have a different layout
     
  9. JohnC123

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    Do you have a main battery cable quick-disconnect under the cab or in or around your battery box? If you see any evidence of heating or arcing inside (depending on type), replace it... only happened at the worst possible time, mine was dual cable disconnect (large dual pins/seats that lock together) that wear with age and will start arcing inside even when locked and secured.
     
  10. tallmon

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    Good call on this one. I just had one that was failing, causing voltage to drop below 12 while driving, codes for A/C, for low voltage. Replaced alternator, checked wires, etc... one day we just couldn't get the switch to operator. Replaced it and all of the other problems went away. That was an expensive learning lesson for a $10 part.
     
  11. heavyhaulerss

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    Although mine was a 95' with a detroit very similar prob, no 1 including freightliner dealer could not find my prob, turned out to be ground wire on e.c.m. shop mgr said wire looked fine, but he pit a new 1 on had a hunch at my truck never had that problem again. I also had very similar, but not exactly the same electrical prob, so I cleaned the cable ends on battery and starer, ground. And whike the heavy 2 gauge cable looked good on the ends, I cut with razor the coating about 6 inches from the end and it was GREEN WITH CORROSION. Never thought of this. Replaced all cables, never another electrical prob. But THE E.C.M. GROUND is the wire that caused the symptoms that you describe. Best of luck.
     
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