2006 Peterbilt 379 will not start

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  1. eric7871438

    eric7871438 Bobtail Member

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    Production date 05/2006. Pete 379 with cat c15 has a crank no start after putting new battery's in. dash reads miles with key off, but when ur turn key on it reads ------- for hours miles and outside temp. cranks over fine no smoke out exhaust. Pins 52,53, and 70 are getting power from pcm and pins 65,67 have ground. Checked all fuses twice and they are fine. Only thing i did besides battery's was oil pressure switch got part from cat so i dont see that being some sort of issue. Also when key gets turned on battery gauge kind of studders for few seconds before it goes up to the correct voltage. I can not figure out what it could be. I dont want to just throw pcm at it after a battery swap. Also none of the cables arced out on install or coming apart but one postive termianl was welded to the nut, must of had loose connection. Any input is greatly appreciated thanks.
     
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  3. 062

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    I’d check each battery with a voltmeter. I’ve never seen it myself, but I have heard of new batteries having the polarity reversed.
    Have you checked for fuses behind the main instrument cluster?
    I have a 94 and there’s a 5 amp marked ecm back in the wiring harness.
    @Big Road Skateboard @Goodysnap
     
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    eric7871438 Bobtail Member

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    5 amp ecm fuse is good. I have not got into the relays behind the cluster yet. and checked battery's there fine. turns over nice and fast.
     
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    Lazer Road Train Member

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    Had the same issue at work with a ‘93 375 w/ISM. Mistakenly took all 4 batteries out, then a couple months later put 4 batteries back in. Engine turn over great, but like yours, no start. Crank, and crank, no smoke from stack. Had two different mechanics look at it and checked all wires, etc. Never did figure it out. I have since retired, not sure if truck is still there.
     
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    You’re not gonna want to hear it but it’s an ECM power issue it’s loosing voltage when your key is in the crank position. Your tested voltage yes but not load tested the circuit. See if your ecm power and ground will light a halogen headlight.

    Either is never a good thing but I have had customers bring trucks to me that they thought had fuel leaking down. They would crank on either then run. They wouldn’t couldn’t accept it being an electrical issue till I sent it home running. The problem began when you were meddling around in battery box. That’s where the problem is
     
  7. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    If all circuits hold a headlight load and shakedown it’s new ECM time.
     
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  8. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Hey @wore out, I may be thinking of E model, but did the C15 have a ground stud on the left side of the head?

    I vaugely remember having a couple no starts with issues at that ground. Maybe I'm mistaken, or not C15. Long time ago.

    OP, I would pull all those batteries back out, and would be surprised if there's not a wire you missed
     
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  9. eric7871438

    eric7871438 Bobtail Member

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    So what your saying is if those wires I tested power up a head lamp while cranking it is the ecm?
     
  10. eric7871438

    eric7871438 Bobtail Member

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    From what I've read everything is pointing ecm. Just weird that its getting power to all those wires I listed. I wasn't able to read voltage while cranking but I will check that tomorrow morning. Is it really common for ecms to fail just by switching battery's? I read something on another forum that there is a internal battery in ecm to keep memory. Once that dies and your outta luck when battery's die. Idk how true that is, have you heard that?
     
  11. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    Yes the ECM has an internal battery for Keep alive memory. A fault will typically log active for the internal battery.

    I would also suspect wiring first. Shake down wiring from the ECM to batteries for that sealed beam to flicker or dim. Also check while cranking.
     
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