I'm going to go look at a '84 Brig tomorrow and am curious as to what others opinion's are on the 6v92 detroit 2 stroke engine. It's only a single axle truck, with a 21 foot single axe trailer, will that old detroit have enough power to pull 60,000 pounds? About what do you feel the tractor is worth? It's got a 9 speed, spring ride, single axe. The package is on auction, and I'm looking for another truck/trailer combo to do some grain hauling with. Any opinions on the old detroit especially would be appreciated. Thanks everyone!!
1984 GMC Brigadier? Any specific opinions?
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by pudamobile, Jun 6, 2010.
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i can't comment specifically on the detroit v-8 (i'm ASSuming it's a v type engine), because i don't know jack about diesel engines. However, i'm pretty confident that with this engine and the 9 spd,the tractor at least could comfortably tow 60,000lbs. The problem is that with only three axles for the whole combination, would this even be legally possible? 20 on the drive, 20 on the trlr and ASSuming you could get 20 on the steers (don't think so) you would need the extra wide tires.
i think the brigadier is a great truck in general. Especially if you can fix it yourself.
i don't care what anybody says GM knew how to make heavy duty trucks. So did ford. -
Detroit made several HP ratings on that engine, starting around 270 on up to 335. The 335 is a 6V92TTA, while the other HP ratings are 6V92TT, with the A meaning the engine has an after cooler in the block. The tag on the valve cover will tell you if the engine is a TTA or just TT, and should have the HP ratings.
Start the engine cold and watch for excessive white smoke, especially puffing smoke, like from one cylinder, as this could indicate broken rings on a cylinder. It is normal to see white smoke for several seconds or longer, but white smoke after a minute or two is something to be concerned with.
The weak part of this engine is the block and crank. They are known to spin main bearings, and in doing so, spreading the main bearing saddle, cracking the block. Usually antifreeze in the oil or excessively worn bearings is the cause of this. If you have compression building in the radiator, then I would be concerned. It is also possible for the liner to crack below the ring line and leak water into the pan.
The best way to check for water or antifreeze is to crack open the oil drail plug when the engine has sat at least overnite, and watch to see if any water comes out before the oil does.
If you buy this truck, it wouldn't be a bad idea to drop the pan and pop in a new set of rod and main bearings. This is very easy and cheap to do with the engine in the truck. You can inspect the lower portion of the liners at this time. You will then have peace of mind as to the condition of the engine. I owned a 335 TTA in a single axle cabover IH. It was a very smooth running, powerful engine, that got very good fuel mileage for its time.
A 6V92TTA at 335 HP is very capable of pulling 60k and get decent fuel mileage if the overhead is set up correctly. You will need a two axle trailer to legally pull this kind of weight. The main thing is to check it out good.bullhaulerswife Thanks this. -
Figure on 4 MPG and a gallon of oil a day. The story about oil coming from dinosaur bones is a myth. It comes from parking lots where cavemen parked their Detroits. I've seen thes engines pull 105,000 in the mountains of B.C., not fast but they did it.
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It's currently registered in MN at 58,000, and with the ND weight chart, I'm looking at 60,000.
I took a good look today, 683k, tires are at 90% on the tractor, 50% on the trailer. Oil was BLACK, but if these detroits are anything like my 6.2 in my old work pickup, that's typical. No antifreeze in the oil, engine was clean. Had a very small oil stain under it, not a puddle, just a small stain. Engine started and ran out well, was cold enough before I fired it up that I grabbed the exhaust manifold and it was cool. About the first 20 seconds it blew whitish smoke, but then after that it cleaned up. It did smoke plenty when I got hard on it during my test drive.
I'm thinking in the $7500 range for the 20 1/2' hopper trailer and the tractor. Am I way off base? I didn't check the tag on the engine, slipped my mind. I'll call and ask the guy in the morning.
Thanks for the responses guys!!Last edited: Jun 8, 2010
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Just got off the horn with the Owner, it's a 335 horse. From what I've heard, the old screaming detroits made all their power and torque on the top of the RPM band. Will I have a hard time jumping from my '91 T-600 with a 300 horse L10 in it to the old screaming jimmy? Both have 9 speeds, but the L10 is a torquey engine and from what I've been told the 2 stroke detroits aren't.
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Don't lug it under 1700 RPM. If you are holding 1700 up hill with the pedal on the floor, shift down a gear. 2100 RPM is the governed top, but 2200-2300 is no problem. The most power will be from 1900-2300.
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Looked it over again, it's a silver 6v92. Does that help anyone? I'm not sure which is the better to get, the green or the silver engine? But it does run real nice. The auction is over in 2 days, anyone else have an opinion on how much $$ I should be handing out? Thanks!!
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