I am wondering about this 16-hour Exemption to the 14 hours of ON DUTY, per DOT/FMCSA regulations. There is a dispatcher who seems to think they can force us unto working a 16 hour day per this exemption, even when we tell them we are too tired to continue driving.
It is my understanding that this 16 hour exemption was created to prevent a driver from getting an HOS violation in the event of an unexpected emergency. It seems like an abuse of the system, to attempt to force a driver into working 16 hours.
There was a dialogue between me and this dispatcher. I told them I couldn't legally make the last load and was too tired anyways. I stated that an HOS violation would have been imminent. They then come back on me and say that I have to run the load , and to use my "16 hour exemption." I told them that I believed I was a danger to the motoring public and refused the load, and took the truck back to the yard.
Is there any legal recourse to a dispatcher trying to force a driver to use this exemption? Or an it be at the driver's discretion only? It seems like an abuse of the system, to utilize this exemption to simply work longer hours in the absence of any emergency.
16 Hour Exemption and Coercion
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by moloko, May 1, 2016.
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Well, you can only do it once...so, maybe you have to pull a 16 everyweek to keep job?
Def intended to reach safehaven, as you mentioned...
Maybe yu get a dispatcher reprimanded, retrained or fired...seems like a loosing scenario
Im always fighting to get my work done everyday, they wont let me use a 16 to fetch another load...Even when I ask -
Can you provide any reference to the law, that indicates it is specifically designed to reach a safe haven? That would be extremely helpful. I know a quick google search could point me in the right direction, but I also want other drivers to weigh in on this one. -
Are you talking about the 2 hour safe haven exemption for OTR drivers or the 16 hour rule for local drivers?
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As I understand it.
You must depart from and return to the same location everyday for the previous 5 days.
It can only be used once a week.
Took this directly from the March 2015 FMCSA Truck Drivers Guide
What Is the 16-Hour Short-Haul Exception?
If you usually come back to your work-reporting location and go home at the end of your workday,
you might be able to use the 16-hour short-haul exception. This exception allows you to extend the
14-consecutive-hour driving window to 16 hours once every 7 consecutive days. In order to use
this exception, you must do the following:
• You must return to your work reporting location that day, as well as for your last 5 duty tours. A
duty tour is the period of time from when you come to work to when you leave work. It is your
“workday,” the time between your off-duty periods of at least 10 consecutive hours.
• You must be released from duty within 16 hours after coming on duty.
• You must only use this exception once every 7 consecutive days (unless you took 34 consecutive
hours off to restart a 7/8-day period).
You may not use this exception if you qualify for the “Non-CDL Short Haul Exception”
explained earlier.
This regulation is found in Section 395.1(o).Toomanybikes, otherhalftw and brian991219 Thank this. -
First of all are you local or OTR? Local yes the 16 hr is valid once a week
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/part/395
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In a recent thread there was discussion regarding this rule; some points made in that thread may have already been mentioned above. Here is the link in case it is helpful: http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...-in-this-situation.313270/page-5#post-5195945
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In answer to the respective poster's question, I am a local driver. From what I understand, our safety guy and manager have stated that any time dispatch tries to do this to us, they want to be notified. I think my employer has dealt with several lawsuits over this kind of stuff and want to prevent it.
Just for the record, if one does have to quit their job over these legal violations and find a new job who isn't trying to kill anyone, that person wouldn't have to just take it lying down. Damages are a part of quitting and finding a new job; you lose your insurance benefits and all that. In theory, one could lawyer up and sue the hell out of the company for what is called a "constructive discharge." I know I talk about this from time to time on this message board, but it's completely justified under the circumstances I am describing. -
Well, keep in mind that there are now laws relating to coercion specifically in driving hours. It's a new law.
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The rule was made for local drivers dealing with ordinary slow shippers/recievers once per week as MR.G described.
Surely everyone expects the conversation to end when you say your too tired. However that doesn’t cover your arse entirely. Meaning your dispatcher could put you on his own 'light duty' list and block you from a full weeks work <--I'm not saying, just saying.
In your latest post, yes I believe your correct. You could lawyer up and sue for every imaginable cost related to leaving and finding new employment. But that requires so much proof its unattainable without a full team of lawyers, for a job that pays ~$50-60k/yr... your better off in small claims or just letting it go.
I know being right is worth something, but I don't see this as the fight to die (go broke) over.
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