Trail kings

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  1. Big_Red

    Big_Red Medium Load Member

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    I'll be stepping into the RGN world in a few more months and had some general questions on the hydraulic trail kings. The one we ordered is the 45 ton triaxle set up, build sheet says dual hydraulics and diverter valve. 3rd axle is a lift axle. It is a full decked trailer with 12 d-rings on the deck itself plus according to the build sheet the neck has a deck as well. I've never seen that in person that I know of. I only see mechanicals with a top or front deck.

    Can anybody chime in on:
    1) common points of failure with the trail kings or hydraulic RGNs( leaks/blown fittings or hoses/faulty cylinders

    2) any tell tale signs that something is about to go wrong that I can look for in order to prevent horrible awful things from happening to a trailer I can't pay for?

    3) spare things to carry( I feel like hoses and fittings are a given) if that horibble awful thing goes right ahead and happens?

    4) anything else....

    Ps I have read the things you wish you knew ahead of time thread
     
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  3. Big_Red

    Big_Red Medium Load Member

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  4. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Each trl will have it's own quricks mainly look for stress cracks on any big trl no matter the brand
     
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  5. Oxbow

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    I have not pulled a trailer with a top deck, but it would probably be really nice if one is hauling for an equipment rental outfit that has light stands or small scissor lifts etc. to move that can be lifted onto the deck. The extra weight would make them prohibitive for many though. I don't think that you would want to unhook with much weight up there as it would stress the stiff leg arm that supports the neck when unhooking probably more than it was designed for.

    I have never blown a hydraulic hose on the neck, so probably would not want to pack around extra hoses and fittings just for that. They really don't get used that much, and unless they rot should not need to be replaced for a long time. The air hoses and light chord between the deck and neck are another matter. I have seen me pull away from the deck without unhooking those first - embarrassing - and the mental checklist of things to do while hooking up and unhooking was added to.

    For our work (contractor) I would like to fit a small battery on rear of the trailer to run trailer caution lights while unhooked and unloading on a roadway. I also like lots of chain boxes between the frames for chains/binders/ blocks. We are fortunate to be able to leave our stuff on the trailer without having them stolen, and on those days when we load/unload several times it is nice not to have to pack everything back to the headache rack each load.

    I have no experience with Trail King, but they have an outstanding reputation, so I should think that design problems should not be a concern - especially on a lighter rated trailer. If you do not have a wet kit then a gas can, spark plug, and spare pull rope would be on my list of things to carry.

    That is all that comes to mind at the moment. Enjoy the new trailer.
     
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  6. Big_Red

    Big_Red Medium Load Member

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    @Oxbow you mentioned carrying spare parts for the pony motor. I was curious as to how they perform in the winter time? Ever had any issues with one that refuses to start?

    I looked on Google and found a picture of a hydraulic neck with the top deck and it seemed to have a pretty good foward rake to it which makes me question how useful it actually is for the weight gain you mentioned. So far I've just assumed it will be good to ratchet tarps to it and maybe one or two spare tires. Don't know how practical that is though. Nobody in our operation has pulled RGN before so I'm anxious but paranoid.

    @passingthru69 I imagine the stress cracks will be more prone around the center of the trailer? I've seen some dominators with serious arch but I've never seen a TK like that. Or possibly the bolster area for the center of the tridem?
     
  7. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

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    No the cracks would be where the well Transitions to rear axles or in the neck, my guess is you will
    Not have detachable wheel area on that 50 ton

    I doubt you will have much issue with that trailer if you are not constantly overloading it.

    And Yes I have a trail king hyd - just 65 ton
     
  8. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    I own two TK 55 tons one is a 2013 and the other is a 2003 I much prefer the 2003 it is just a better trailer. Is yours a commercial series or an HG series, the HG is the better trailer and is way more forgiving on uneven ground. Like has been mentioned above look for stress cracks on the transition to the bogie and also between axle one and two. Also make sure it hasn't been drug too much on the front, if you're getting new always set the ride height as high as the load will allow to keep from dragging the bottom and keep a sharp eye for humps and holes in parking lots nothing worse than a guy that gets hung up because he didn't pay attention to the terrain.
     
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  9. cnsper

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    And for heavens sake, don't do like I have seen in the past with the chain wrapped under the frame rail. That is unless you really do want shorter chains.
     
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  10. Big_Red

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    It's HG series TK90AHG is what the build sheet says. im still pulling the flat bed until December but I've been driving imagining that I'm pulling the new trailer to get myself "trained" to watching the slope in and out of truck stops, backing with out getting as much angle between the truck and trailer to be prepared for backing with heavy or top heavy pieces. Also practicing reading signs and traffic from a lot further back than I was before to give more time to react. Hopefully it counts for something
     
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  11. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    That's good to get yourself into that mode. The AHG is the advantage neck and while I've never owned one I've looked at a few and they are really nice with the upgrades especially the ratchet neck instead of the doors.
     
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