Attorneys Answer Q: Guns in Truck

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tscottme, Feb 25, 2025.

  1. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    I was shot 6 times in an armed robbery on duty at work in my trailer drop yard at our main terminal looking for a trailer to pick up the next morning.

    Is that enough explanation and support? You'll have a hell of a time convincing me I need to worry more about heart disease being 5'8 and 160lbs and jogging 4 miles a day than being shot and killed doing this job.
     
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    So have a gun on CA-approved list, which just accidentally makes your gun legal to possess in the other commie states, now that IL FOID has been struck down. NJ prohibits hollow-point ammo, so carry ball ammo, it's cheaper anyway. Going to Canada, stop at a gun store and ship your gun to your local gun store or have them store it for a fee. There are ways to deal with the issues, but only if you think about, research, and follow through. Most people can't be bothered so they just ask someone to tell them what they want to hear and think disagreeing with the law will somehow protect them. They law seldom ever asks or cares what anyone thinks about it. Make good choices.
     
  4. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    At some point you have to declare "shall not be infringed" to be infringed.
     
  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm very glad you survived. How many truck drivers do you think will even personally know another driver that has been shot? There are true stories of people falling out of airliners in flight and surviving. The true story doesn't suggest parachutes are not necessary. We are all glad you survived. The gun crime that touched your life is a freak event and very rare occurrence, not common, not likely, just huge in your life. It would be huge in my life. Out of 1 million truck drivers how many do you think ever have a gun pointed at them in their whole career? I'm discounting every "friend of a friend" story and assume 99% of the "someone pointed a gun at me" stories are actually an I heard a story from someone I trust to tell me the truth that THEY said someone pointed a gun at me, but the story is retold as "it happened to me" to boost the credibility. If someone telling the story didn't file a police report, it didn't happen.

    For every gun-involved story there are maybe dozens of wrecks or heart-attacks stories.
     
  6. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    For every gun-involved story I would guess there are hundreds of wrecks and heart attack incidents.
     
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  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    It's been infringed for at least 100 years. Get caught breaking the laws that infringe on the 2nd Amendment and you will go to jail and serve your full sentence. Nobody is arguing it hasn't been infringed. Heck, most govt agencies are unconstitutional and illegal and each of their laws and regulations are still enforced. Even most of the Federal Courts have seized illegal power and that happened during the 1st administration of the country's POTUS. Having an opinion, even the correct opinion, doesn't change anything.
     
  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    FOPA doesn't mention interstate commerce. It mentions interstate transportation of a legal firearm in possession of a legal possessor of a firearm from one location where he/it are legal to a destination where he/it are legal, even if going through a state where he/it would otherwise be illegal. It doesn't protect a shipment of guns as freight. It's aimed at individuals and individual firearms, if you meet all of the requirements of FOPA, some of which you've mentioned elsewhere

    The state laws still apply and the state can arrest, try and convict you on state charges. I'm not arguing FOPA is the dream gun law that solves gun problems for OTR truck drivers. It's a federal law that addresses individuals, and OTR truck drivers are individuals, despite 50 years of whining by truck drivers they are specially punished just for breathing, and transporting individual firearms across state lines. Do you understand the difference between "I agree with everything you say", and "I agree with almost everything you say", or "I agree with almost everything you have said, but this other important thing has been left out"? Elect me emperor and not only will there be no gun laws, no IRS, and 90% unemployment of current govt employees but your taxes will be a lot lower and everyone with a CDL will speak English. I'm not arguing FOR any of the gun laws some or all of us hate. These laws exist and serving 20 years in prison while chanting "I disagree with the laws" is not a win. I haven't even suggested a driver carry or not carry. Heck, I haven't disclosed if I carried or didn't carry. I've said the only 2 ways I know to be legal everywhere is don't carry or be a retired cop with a badge. I think there are even exceptions for the retired cop situation, but no more than 1-5 people on this forum ever does that MAYBE apply.
     
  9. Ex-Trucker Alex

    Ex-Trucker Alex Road Train Member

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    Going back 40 years (before I started trucking), I drove cab at night in my mid-size northeastern city. There was another guy who carried a long-barrel Colt 45, and considering he looked a bit like Yosemite Sam, it went with the look. One night, some low-life he picked up off the street in a bad area tried to rob him, and actually got some money off him before he managed to get that 8" long pistol out and shoot the guy, blowing out his back window, and the guy bled all over the back seat. But THEN, he ran after the bleeding robber as the guy tried to get away, firing the rest of his bullets at the guy as he fled.

    Cops came, busted him for reckless discharge of a firearm and towed his car. Cops kept his prized gun, and he had over $1000 damage to his car, along with the tow charge, the lawyer fees, and wasn't working because his hack license was suspended pending trial. So, yeah, he was scr3w3d to the tune of $6k and maybe 18 months at Auburn State Prison.

    How much did the robber get away with? Less than $50......
     
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  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    How many truck drivers are shot at work every year?
    How many truck drivers have heart attacks or strokes each year?
    How many truck drivers die in wrecks each year?
    Did anyone deny you or another truck driver has ever been shot at work?
    Did I say truck drivers should not be armed?
     
  11. bryan21384

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    All over 50 bucks. Trying to be a bad ###.
     
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