I own an Illinois company and lately I have often needed to transport overweight or oversize loads. I have an online account with IDOT to get oversize permits and state permitting has been cheap, easy and instantaneous.
But I have a few questions.
1. A permit is for one trip only. Does anyone really keep tracking, via black helicopters or otherwise, if in fact I made more than one trip?
2. How strict are the police on things like dimensions. Say, if I put 11' 4" and the load has a small handle that makes is 11' 6", would I get in trouble, realistically, or they do not care as long as I have the permit?
3. Does anyone ever get county or city permits for the last or first 1/2 miles of the trip?
4. I had this instance where I weighed 44 tons and was routed, on paper, on a road that said WEIGHT LIMIT 40 TONS. I just drove and no one caught me, but I wonder if it was illegal.
5. What if on my permit application I overstate the weight and size. Say I say that I will weigh 99,999 lbs, with axle weights to match that, but in fact I am only 88,000. I do this to play it safe, as you would imagine. But is that valid for a permit?
Can I say that I am 12' wide but in fact I am only 9' wide?
The fees are the same and I figure that it gives me a little safety margin. But is that proper?
6. Can I show the police an electronic PDF permit on my phone or laptop, or does it have to be printed on paper?
Illinois OVERSIZE LOAD questions...
Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by ichudov, Jun 10, 2018.
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For the first 5, why get a permit if your going to be bigger than said permit?
The permits are not just a cash grab you know. -
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So i take it you're only transporting od/ow intrastate?
Some states allow for a blanket permit up to specific sizes and weights. My company has a blanket permit in wisconsin up to 14ft high and 12 wide.
As for permitting one size and you are in fact a couple on inches taller, its best to revise your permits. Its a nominal fee and far cheaper than the fines that you can get.
If your permit tells you to go down a weight restricted road, you are absolved of any weight violations as the state specifically routed you on that road. But you had better make #### sure your route takes you down that road.
As for permitting larger than you actually are, of course you can, but the larger you go, the more your permit changes. The routing for a 14ft high load is usually significantly different from a 14ft 6in tall load. My company will usually give me a permit for 2 or 3 inches wider and i actually am, but our heights are usually no more than 1 inch higher than the actual height.ichudov Thanks this. -
Thanks. I only go higher on my permit application, on weight and width. I have never transported anything over height. I learned that weight and width up to 100k lbs (I am five axles) and 12' wide the fee does not change and is always $15.
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1 - Look into a blanket, otherwise single trip every time. Don’t risk re-using a single trip.
2 - Very strict. Permit slightly over the dimensions, unless it runs into escort requirements.
3 - Yes. Some counties have dedicated LEO looking for this. Some states grant an ‘egress’ of X miles from permit route.
4 - Permit says roll - I believe you’re covered.
5 - Out of my depth.
6 -,I know AR allows it, not sure on IL. I always print them out.ichudov Thanks this. -
I believe illinois also offers a multitrip permit but ive never dealt with one. As @blairandgretchen suggested, check into a blanket permit if its the exact same dimensions each time
Bean Jr. Thanks this. -
I use heavyhaul.net for a quick reference - has links to state official pages too.
It’s about 95% accurate, 85% of the time. -
Blanket permit is too expensive, $1000, and then I am not sure what routes to take.
blairandgretchen Thanks this. -
Illinois single trip aren’t expensive though.
I use a permit company - it’s $16.50/ state, then LS tacks on a $5 fee, then the state fee. I generally figure $75/state. 4 states $300, plus linehaul, factor time in curfew restrictions - price it, and they can take it or leave it.
LS has a blanket for MS, I understand it’s the only carrier specific state - the others are truck specific. So, if you have multiple trucks, maybe you can’t blanket anyway.
I need to order a TN blanket, thanks for the reminder.
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