The FMCSA issued a proposal for a new rule this week that would remove the requirement for drivers to file a Driver Vehicle Inspection Report when there are no issues to be reported. According to the Department of Transportation, this one change alone would save the industry $1.7 billion a year in paperwork costs.
Currently drivers are required to perform a both a pre-trip and a post-trip inspection, and file a report after each inspection. While drivers will still have to conduct the inspections, they will no longer have to submit reports if they don’t find anything issues with their equipment. According to the proposal, non-passenger commercial motor vehicle drivers spend approximately 47.2 million hours every year filling out DVIRs.
“The no-defect DVIR imposes a substantial time and paperwork burden on the industry, with no discernible social benefit,” said the proposal which can be viewed here.
“We can better focus on the 5 percent of problematic truck inspection reports by eliminating the 95 percent that report the status quo,” said FMCSA Administrator Anne Ferro.
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IF you on the road you never put anything on you logs , but when you get to the yard then you wright it up
so if you dont fill out and sign a log
how does anyone know you inspected anything ever
when a failure occurs who will be blamed
the drivers signature at least shows he looked at the vehicle
another “dah” moment for the government
ok, so would a “check box” at the bottom be better? ” [] – no defects found x _______ ”
i know that i personally take care of issues as they happen, or as i catch them. yes, i AM one of those who bemoan the post-trip…. i get the truck backed into the parking place at the truck stop, and i am usually within 30 min of the 14 ( or sometimes the 11 ) and i am usually dead tired. but, you can take to the bank that at pre-trip i go over things with a fine-toothed comb! i have seen what happens when a driver does a good post-trip, and someone pulls his pin in the night. lost his trailer, and made me readjust my running schedule for the day. all because he didn’t do a pre-trip inspection! and at the time we weren’t required to….. that was when it was just post-trip!!!
So I wonder if this will affect the annual reports too? I always thought it was a waste to write down nothing was found. How many get stuff fixed and never report it? Seriously the whole logging procedures are hinged on the driver being honest. What has come down to GPS tracking and electronic logging is just going to focus on the driver performance and not the truck. Go sit at any truck stop and watch how many drivers never do a pre trip or post trip. Its come down to drive it till it breaks and call road service.
There will still be proof of the inspection being done by drivers, considering you have to log a pre and post-trip for no less than 15 minutes on a paper log, and however long you would like on a qualcomm. Being that logs are federal documents they would still stand up in court as proof that you did not find any violations. This does however help the lazy slobs with food wrappers all over their dash, holes in their sweats that they wear for a week at a time, and a ladder just to get themselves onto the first step of their truck be even more lazy because now they don’t even have to think about it.
My concern is, we do our pretrip, find nothing, roll. We get scaled, inspected, and that thing we thought was no big deal, is big deal to the cop. We get a ticket and psp is marred. Screw that Im still doing them.
Tiresome work after driving all 11 hours then post tripping a hot truck and trailer. Ninety nine percent never do it. Two weeks ago in the fuel isle in Columbia Nj I saw a flat on the trailer next to me. When I told the driver he said it had just been repaired an its flat again. We are getting shoddy work thats wasting our valuable time. On a drop and hook I can just depend I’l find a flat or other problem like refer fuel 1/8 a tank. Drivers are being pushed hard then their inspections slip. To many gators on the road today.
Components don’t usually fail when a truck is parked. Discussing or changing the semantics of the procedure doesn’t make it safer. Writing it down or not writing it down doesn’t make it a fact. It can still be a lie as most don’t inspect. It’s still nothing more than conjecture and based on the theory of honesty and integrity. One may show 10 hours off duty but if that time doing other things rather than sleeping ?… etc. A feeble attempt by mere mortals to achieve perfection or give the impression of it for liabilities sake. Thats why the rules keep changing. Perhaps engineering redundancies keeps it always grey area and profitable for interested parties. Your never quite sure if you have done the right thing unless you got the latest memo.
i have recently been appointed on signing off dvcr’s that our drivers turn in. about 80% of the reports i get have pertain to vehicles needing or have issues and driver has written it up. 80-90% percent of these write ups land on my desk after the fact(3-4 weeks after). in the past with previous employer i was able to write off report by stating on dvcr “vehicle not here” can anyone tell me if this acceptable by chp/bit guidelines in california.
If driver writes up an item on his dvcr, there must be proof of the problem being corrected before it can be written off.
Think about this….a driver writes up a broken spring, you don’t get the report for 3 weeks, saying.” The vehicle not here” doesn’t indicate whether the problem has been corrected
Question? Are DVIRs still required in California? Regardless of no-defects. Thanks, Rick
Geez, people, try learning to read! YOU ARE STILL REQUIRED TO DO THE PRE AND POST TRIP INSPECTION AND LOG THEM . What this does is eliminate the requirement for the driver to submit a WRITTEN report to the company if there are no defects found.
As far as you and the DOT are concerned, if you get inspected, your log book must show your PTI.